Best of Super Eurobeat 2013: 221

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Best Song of SEB 221

Poll ended at 26 Nov 2013, 07:38

SEB All Stars - SEB 4 U
1
8%
An-G - Different Girl
1
8%
Dejo & Bon - Loving Eurobeat
1
8%
Stephy Martin - Power & Love
1
8%
Bamboo Bimbo - Kiss
2
15%
Dave Rodgers - 1 Fire
1
8%
Tipsy & Tipsy - Down Down Down
0
No votes
Cy-Ro - Born To Be Wild In My Car
0
No votes
Powerful T. - Kelly
1
8%
Scream Team - Wacky-Wacky-O!
4
31%
Rich Hard - Wild Boys
0
No votes
Heather feat. Dima - Dance Eurobeat
0
No votes
Daniel - Super Driver
0
No votes
Fastway - Hyper Super Powers
0
No votes
Dejo - Boys Gone Wild
1
8%
 
Total votes: 13

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Post by Darkholme » 22 Nov 2013, 21:00

#Infinity wrote:Kelly sounds like it was produced during that dreadful period for A-Beat C from about the late 170's to the mid-180's. Granted, it's not really that bad, it's just mostly forgettable, and the watery production detracts from whatever spark it could've had otherwise.

Can you explain what you meant by "watery production"? I just want to know what irks people about it or just makes them not pay attention, because I can't find anything that I'm that bothered by. I'd say, as long as the beat is playing it's a great track.

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Post by #Infinity » 22 Nov 2013, 23:27

Darkholme wrote:Can you explain what you meant by "watery production"? I just want to know what irks people about it or just makes them not pay attention, because I can't find anything that I'm that bothered by. I'd say, as long as the beat is playing it's a great track.
Well, the kick beat has very little compression, the synth layers are not loud and crisp like they are in the label's work from preceding eras, and there's a general limpness to the sound of these tracks.

But going beyond that, how can you not consider production quality a important factor to any degree? What if the song had so much bass that you couldn't hear the vocals? What if the synths were ridiculously noisy? What if there was so little harmonic support to the main melody that the track was unprofessionally dry?
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Post by Darkholme » 22 Nov 2013, 23:50

#Infinity wrote:But going beyond that, how can you not consider production quality a important factor to any degree? What if the song had so much bass that you couldn't hear the vocals? What if the synths were ridiculously noisy? What if there was so little harmonic support to the main melody that the track was unprofessionally dry?
I was talking specifically about Kelly, not production quality in general. I have no issues with Kelly's production, that's why I say that I'm not bothered by it. Of course production quality matters to me.

Maybe it's my english that fails me

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Post by #Infinity » 23 Nov 2013, 05:17

Darkholme wrote:I was talking specifically about Kelly, not production quality in general. I have no issues with Kelly's production, that's why I say that I'm not bothered by it. Of course production quality matters to me.
Well, part of a song's strength is indeed in its vocal delivery and musical structure, but the instrumentation should also support the other factors. The production is a definite problem for me personally with Kelly. The particular synth style in that track was also pervasive in a lot of A-Beat C tracks from 2007 and early 2008, and they tended to suffer terribly for me as a result.
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Post by Darkholme » 23 Nov 2013, 11:51

#Infinity wrote:Well, part of a song's strength is indeed in its vocal delivery and musical structure, but the instrumentation should also support the other factors. The production is a definite problem for me personally with Kelly. The particular synth style in that track was also pervasive in a lot of A-Beat C tracks from 2007 and early 2008, and they tended to suffer terribly for me as a result.
I appreciate you describing what bothers you about it with that level of detail, that way it's easier to understand why we think differently!

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