I don't think any of us have problems with changes in eurobeat. The sound has changed a lot in de past decades. But earlier, the changes gave a unique touch to the style, things you didn't hear in other styles. Now, the changes are just blending the current pop sound into eurobeat. Jager and Renoir do that to such an extent, that the songs are really pop or trance.
Bore wrote:The labels are what defines eurobeat, I would think it's refreshing to try out new things instead of inventing the wheel over and over again.
I wouldn't say that as long as a song is produced by a eurobeat label, the song is still eurobeat, if that's what you mean. I fully agree that trying out new things is good. But unfortunately, many things tried out now are not new. These have been present in trance and pop for years already. Sinclaire was someone who tried new and very interesting things in the 90s. Most of you don't like his current style, but what he did in his early days was extremely refreshing and new. Totally the opposite of the current evolution. It is probably difficult to see that in retrospect, Vadim really hit the nail on the head.
DarkSky wrote:I just want to say: stop nagging about which songs are Eurobeat, and which songs are not. We had such discussions many times before, remember Labyrinth of Love? Or the song by Renoir? Eventually it's Avex who decides wether a song is Eurobeat or not, and apparantly they think Jager's song is Eurobeat.
Interesting to see that you are still trying to stop people from saying things. Avex doesn't decide what Eurobeat is at all. I wouldn't claim that ALFA invented the Eurobeat name, but ALFA released compilations way before AVEX was even established. Avex didn't invent the name. As for the reason to put those songs on SEB, it's also possible Avex just does that as a favor to the eurobeat producers who want exposure for their non-eurobeat stuff somewhere.
DarkSky wrote:Rate the song itself, do not rate how close the song is to some traditional eurobeat.
That only seems logical to me. But if I don't like a certain pop ingredient in a pop song, I probably won't like the ingredient when it is put into a eurobeat song either.