Super Eurobeat 229

thejti · Post by **thejti** » 31 May 2014, 13:59

drnrg wrote:thejti
Only thing we can go by is Roberto Festari, what is given to us by the producers, and information from the artists/writers/producers on Facebook. If Fulvio is stating that he was Tam Arrow, then I can only go by that even if Tam Arrow sounds like Magnani a little. Ask them on Facebook for clarification.
That's hilarious! That's like saying that Tom Hooker was not ;indeed the vocals behind Den Harrow. There is no way that Claudio Magnani did not do vocals for Tam Arrow as well as other HRG Attack aliases.Like infinity said, just the vocals alone prove it. There are some vocaliasts who might; at TIMEs, sound similiar with each other, but Claudio had a certain tone that was unmistakeble. Even now as the new Billy The Buture and Gordan Jim; Fulvio sounds NOTHING like Tam Arrow vocals; which is really saying, Claudio Magnani vocals. In fact. you would have a better TIME convincing me that Allesio was Tam Arrow, since on some Riki 1 songs, they actually sound similiar, but Fulvio as Tam Arrow?

I bet if we put Fulvio and Claudio through one of those vocal identification softwares, Tam Arrrow would be ;in fact, Claudio. Either that; or HRG Attack has one of the best vocal tweeking softwares ever made.

That being said, I wouldn't mind Claudio, Alessio and Fulvio all singing at HRG Attack again. All the drama really just causes loss of quality in Eurobeat.

What drama are you talking about? There's never been any confirmation of Magnani being at HRG. As I mentioned, I'm only going by what's presented by the artists and producers. If you want to confirm this, message Festari, Rimonti, or Fulvio on Facebook and get the real story. I'm not denying that Magnani's never been at HRG. For all we know, he could have sung a bunch of songs we don't know about. He could have also not sung a single one. I know someone worked with Festari on the list of female vocalists at the label. Get a list together of the male singers at HRG.

#Infinity · Post by **#Infinity** » 31 May 2014, 17:14

thejti wrote:What drama are you talking about? There's never been any confirmation of Magnani being at HRG. As I mentioned, I'm only going by what's presented by the artists and producers. If you want to confirm this, message Festari, Rimonti, or Fulvio on Facebook and get the real story. I'm not denying that Magnani's never been at HRG. For all we know, he could have sung a bunch of songs we don't know about. He could have also not sung a single one. I know someone worked with Festari on the list of female vocalists at the label. Get a list together of the male singers at HRG.

Does what the record executives tell you really trump the significance of what the vocals actually sound like that much? Unless Claudio Magnani has a long-lost identical twin brother or something, there's really no hiding his involvement with HRG, based on vocal similarities between songs like The Boom Boom Power versus Dance In the Fire by Mad Max. Eurobeat is a small and little-known industry, and there are only so many artists involved who can sound that much like Claudio. Claudio has so many credits, both at HRG, as well as other labels, that there's no reason to mix up which songs he's on between these labels. Words can only get you so far, especially when HRG already lied to you before.

Also, since you asked for it, here is a list of all of HRG's male vocalists, based on the label's catalogue and cheeseman's research:

Roberto Gabrielli (1994-1995) - First person to use the majority of HRG's male aliases before they were assumed by Festari and Rimonti.
First Credit: Baby Doll / Dr. Gabriel
Last Credit: I Want Your Fire / Cy-Ro

Roberto Festari (1995-2013) - A longtime member of HRG's male lineup who became increasingly active as time progressed. Occasionally assumed some of Rimonti's aliases, like Jungle Bill on I Wanna Be Your Dog and Jeff Driller on That's My Car.
First Credit: Beautiul / Joe D. Toaster
Last Credit: Goldginger / Nick Turbo

Federico Rimonti (1995-present) - One of HRG's executive founders, known best as Franz Tornado and Mad Cow, but also the vocalist behind other titles such as Jungle Bill and Jeff Driller. Though very active for most of the label's lifespan, he has slowed down his rate of performances in recent years.
First Credit: Blue Jean / Cy-Ro

Gianni Coraini (1996-1998) - Italo veteran Gianni Coraini performed most of HRG's male tracks in the late 90's, using names that would later go to other vocalists (Jungle Bill, Remy Panther, Francis Cooper, etc.), but also posing as Franz Tornado for Tornado Superchild.
First Credit: Energy People United / Live Music Gang
Last Credit: Night Fly Guy / Francis Cooper

Claudio Magnani (1999-2004) - Performed for Hi-NRG Attack in tandem with his stint at Delta as Mad Max and Speedman. Unlike previous HRG vocalists, Magnani used a slew of pseudonyms completely exclusive to him.
First Credit: Wow Tokyo / Mote Mote
Last Credit: Dance Around the World / P. Stone

Andrea Girbauldo (2001-2009) - Performed most of HRG's softer male tracks throughout the 2000's. As with Magnani, Girbauldo's aliases were only ever used by him, aside from Lucky Boy on I'm A Lucky Boy (the only non-Magnani track on the Bratt Protone compilation).
First Credit: My Little Girl / Rick Castle
Last Credit: Stargate / Starkly Ice

Alessio Novi (2001-2002, 2010) - Primarily active during the latter part of the Euromach era, though he later recorded Run Adventure in My Car several years later. A lot like Gianni Coraini, Novi appeared on just as many soft tracks as aggressive ones.
First Credit: Baby Frankenstein / Riki 1
Last Credit: Run Adventure in My Car / Ricky 1

"Frank Casino/Speed McQueen" (2005) - A short-lived artist whose eccentric inflection makes him sound kind of like the Count from Sesame Street. All of his tracks went unreleased until HRG's independent compilations.
First Credit: Baby Please Don't Go / Frank Casino
Last Credit: Speed Control / Speed McQueen

F. Malvicino (2014-present) - A brand new male vocalist, signed presumably to assume Festari's empty slot. He is the first person to use the old, obscure Billy the Butcher and Gordon Jim aliases since 1996 and apparently might perform under Claudio's old names as well.
First Credit: I Wanna Run to You / Gordon Jim; Too Tan / Billy the Butcher

drnrg · Post by **drnrg** » 01 Jun 2014, 02:33

thejti

What drama are you talking about? There's never been any confirmation of Magnani being at HRG. As I mentioned, I'm only going by what's presented by the artists and producers. If you want to confirm this, message Festari, Rimonti, or Fulvio on Facebook and get the real story. I'm not denying that Magnani's never been at HRG. For all we know, he could have sung a bunch of songs we don't know about. He could have also not sung a single one. I know someone worked with Festari on the list of female vocalists at the label. Get a list together of the male singers at HRG.

I love HRG Attack and the mythology behind the models who portray all the different singers. probobly more than most people. Fulvio was infact the model behind the Tam Arrow persona. It's even on Livemusicstudio's web page, but they also had models for Cindy, Ciao Ciao,Garcon ect... If you have the older vinyls; you'll notice different models for most of thier singers too. Roberto Gabrielli does in fact make a few front covers as well as Chris, but the rest are models from Siafam covers. If you notice, Corraini, Festari and Maganani were never portrayed as the singers. Maybe HRG thought they didn't have the right image? I don'y know?Furthermore, If you recall; Claudio, was already being portrayed as Robert Patton for TIME records. It's even stated in one of my older SEB. Perhaps they(AVEX?HRG ATTACk?,TIME?)thought It would have looked ridiculous to show him as Tam Arrow at the same TIME and singing on another label. The reasons could be many

Anyway, as for the list;
infinty beat me to it, but there you go. and a very complete one too.

There is also a very nice Eurobeat Wiki online. Not only shows thier singing but also writing credits.

http://wiki.eurobe.at/?cmd=list

jeurobeat · Post by **jeurobeat** » 03 Jun 2014, 04:51

Vocalist sometimes had an exclusive contract with one label and were not supposed to be singing for other labels. The fact that people could hear the truth didn't matter.

When Elena Ferretti sang for A beat C and Double Records, while under contract with Time Records, they claimed that Valentina and Queen of Times weren't sung by Elena Ferretti but by some made up person (Barbara Maniscalch).

When Gino Caria moved from A beat C to Time Records, people claimed that some songs on Time before that move and songs on A beat C after that move were sung by someone else. Later Edo songs were supposed to be sung by someone else than Gino Caria, even though anyone could in fact hear Gino Caria's voice in all Edo songs.

Magnani helped out HRG back in the day (even his picture was inside the studio) but Rimonti probably can't confirm that officially due to legal issues.

para_rigby · Post by **para_rigby** » 08 Jun 2014, 02:31

No info yet? Guessing we will at least have that Ari Oh song along with Pamsy and maybe Go 2?

Bonkers · Post by **Bonkers** » 08 Jun 2014, 21:31

para_rigby wrote:No info yet? Guessing we will at least have that Ari Oh song along with Pamsy and maybe Go 2?

I was wondering the same thing. We at least have the cover art by now.

otter87 · Post by **otter87** » 09 Jun 2014, 03:02

A couple of websites say the release date is now July 8th? But the typical, reputable websites still say June 18th

WNight · Post by **WNight** » 09 Jun 2014, 04:19

Gruzky wrote:A couple of websites say the release date is now July 8th? But the typical, reputable websites still say June 18th

Thanks for the heads up. Even if it's not confirmed yet, I can't help but feel a sinking feeling every time I see rumours/confirmation of a new SEB being postponed.

#Infinity · Post by **#Infinity** » 09 Jun 2014, 04:46

Well, it already happened before just a couple of albums ago, so I'm not surprised here. I guess some of the labels are behind production schedule or something? Whatever the case, it's still better than the SEB 221 delay.

Javy · Post by **Javy** » 09 Jun 2014, 04:49

July 8th is a Tuesday, SEB's have been coming out on Wednesday since like... forever.

Lebon14 · Post by **Lebon14** » 09 Jun 2014, 22:37

Javy wrote:July 8th is a Tuesday, SEB's have been coming out on Wednesday since like... forever.

All musical releases in Japan are on Wednesday. Always. For at least three decades.

otter87 · Post by **otter87** » 10 Jun 2014, 04:41

Javy wrote:July 8th is a Tuesday, SEB's have been coming out on Wednesday since like... forever.

Lebon14 wrote: All musical releases in Japan are on Wednesday. Always. For at least three decades.

As I said, all the go-to websites (CDJapan, Mumo, Amazon, etc) still say June 18th. And I'm not that into Japanese music to recognize or know things like that.

WNight · Post by **WNight** » 11 Jun 2014, 10:38

#Infinity wrote:Well, it already happened before just a couple of albums ago, so I'm not surprised here. I guess some of the labels are behind production schedule or something? Whatever the case, it's still better than the SEB 221 delay.

I was thinking that if they are going to delay it, they could have at least dropped a slight hint as to why it is delayed rather than just screwing with the release date as and when they like it/want to. I understand the point of labels possibly behind on production schedule, and while I may not be the most ardent supporter of seeing super old songs on new SEB, a good one comes every now and then and if it's what it takes to keep the release date on time then they really should consider doing it. The SEB 218-221 delay was utterly ridiculous and should never be used as comparison for any other SEB delay, period.

On another note, here's hoping that there will be news about the release within the next 3 days.

1Ziyo1 · Post by **1Ziyo1** » 11 Jun 2014, 11:21

Amazon says it will be released on July 8, 2014, hope they well deliver.

Lebon14 · Post by **Lebon14** » 11 Jun 2014, 15:17

1Ziyo1 wrote:Amazon says it will be released on July 8, 2014, hope they well deliver.

July 8 is a Tuesday. Musical CD releases in Japan are ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS on Wednesday. ALWAYS.

Also:

and
https://twitter.com/avexsebofficial/sta ... 8299998209

It says that the "promotional music" is available for those who have registered in advance.

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