Super Eurobeat 194

zoupzuop2 · Post by **zoupzuop2** » 15 Feb 2009, 19:15

pokecapn wrote:
zoupzuop2 wrote:Having not heard the original "Fantasy", I gott'a say. The remix is not only well-done, it's also soothing in a way. I really like it. It's also lodged firmly in my head.
Haha, I didn't even think it would be possible to be that much into eurobeat without having heard Fantasy. You should give the original a shot, since I think the older soundworld is a lot smoother than this production's.

Believe me, there's a LOT of "beginner's Eurobeat" I haven't heard. ;3

UFOPOLI · Post by **UFOPOLI** » 17 Feb 2009, 08:31

I finally got to properly review this album and I must say Give It All Up to Me is simply brilliant

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to the best track of the whole decade so far.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » 18 Feb 2009, 03:59

UFOPOLI wrote:I finally got to properly review this album and I must say Give It All Up to Me is simply brilliant I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to the best track of the whole decade so far.

As far as I'm concerned, it's the worst SCP song since 'Go Bananas' by Kiki & Fancy, which wasn't that long ago but I'm not SCP's biggest fan by any means.

An explanation as to why it's 'the best song of the decade' would help so maybe I can begin appreciating the song. For now, though, it's too wishy-washy for me to take it seriously.

UFOPOLI · Post by **UFOPOLI** » 18 Feb 2009, 09:10

Jay wrote:An explanation as to why it's 'the best song of the decade' would help so maybe I can begin appreciating the song.

I can do that, though not right away because I don't have it with me now. For the explanation to be comprehensive, access to my full library will also be helpful. I'm at work at the moment, that's why.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » 02 Mar 2009, 10:37

Well, it's been a month since this album was released, and I must admit I'm surprised barely anybody gave a care about this album. Sure, a few people reviewed the album, but after that the discussion died down extremely quickly. I haven't seen such a deflated reaction to an SEB album before, not just on this forum either. The pre-release anticipation and speculation lasted over 11 pages, whilst post-release reviews and thoughts was barely over three pages in length.

I'm aware the Valentine theme isn't everybody's cup of tea, but perhaps this is a prime example of how themes don't always work out to be an effective marketing strategy for Avex. For that reason, I'm presuming Avex may even return to the mixed 13 extendeds eventually, as there will always be something for everybody on those type of albums.

#Infinity · Post by **#Infinity** » 02 Mar 2009, 17:33

I simply don't own the album because of the horrifying conversion from mu-mo.net to morawin.

the_ditz · Post by **the_ditz** » 02 Mar 2009, 19:31

The album isn't gettign any attention because it's really not that great.

Apart from Norma's absolute monstrosity of a "song", mostly all of the other tracks were simply okay. Nothing majorly catchy to hook me and encourage me to listen again and certainly nothing that will feature high on my list of favourite 190 tracks.

The only songs that hold any real merit are I Remember (probably the best Kasanova track ever) and Fever Of Love. The Fantasy remake was cute, but again it was nothing special.

That's why this album has been getting no attention - well, from me at least...

zoupzuop2 · Post by **zoupzuop2** » 02 Mar 2009, 19:36

the_ditz wrote:The album isn't gettign any attention because it's really not that great.

Apart from Norma's absolute monstrosity of a "song", mostly all of the other tracks were simply okay. Nothing majorly catchy to hook me and encourage me to listen again and certainly nothing that will feature high on my list of favourite 190 tracks.

The only songs that hold any real merit are I Remember (probably the best Kasanova track ever) and Fever Of Love. The Fantasy remake was cute, but again it was nothing special.

That's why this album has been getting no attention - well, from me at least...

Are you kidding? Norma's entry was great! Refreshing, even. It was a great deal more solid in terms of production than previous ABeatC tracks, I can say that much. As well, Fantasy really struck me as well-done, combining a traditional Eurobeat sound with calmer elements that really made it like a breath of fresh air. They weren't AMAZING tracks, but certainly better than "monstrosity" status.

I Remember IS a great Kasanova track, though. It's really a testament to Dall'Ora's composition and production.

#Infinity · Post by **#Infinity** » 02 Mar 2009, 19:53

zoupzuop2 wrote:Are you kidding? Norma's entry was great! Refreshing, even. It was a great deal more solid in terms of production than previous ABeatC tracks, I can say that much.

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zoupzuop2 · Post by **zoupzuop2** » 02 Mar 2009, 20:13

#Infinity wrote:
zoupzuop2 wrote:Are you kidding? Norma's entry was great! Refreshing, even. It was a great deal more solid in terms of production than previous ABeatC tracks, I can say that much.
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That's right. I liked the Norma track. It was refreshing, solid and enjoyable for me, and I don't always enjoy Norma tracks, not easily. The vocals were recorded with more effects on them than usual (making them blend into the mix better; previous ABeatC tracks had this terrible trend of having vocals that didn't mix well into the rest of the song), the soundworld was a drop fuller, and altogether I liked it a lot, a great deal moreso for its solid production.

Cue the "NORMA SUXX, ABEETSEE SUXX AND IF U DONT TIHNK SO U SUXX" comments... I'm ready.

EurothunderNL · Post by **EurothunderNL** » 02 Mar 2009, 20:13

Well, I liked SEB 194 more than most other SEB albums. Perhaps because I like aishu style

Go Avex Go!

#Infinity · Post by **#Infinity** » 02 Mar 2009, 20:22

zoupzuop2 wrote:That's right. I liked the Norma track. It was refreshing, solid and enjoyable for me, and I don't always enjoy Norma tracks, not easily. The vocals were recorded with more effects on them than usual (making them blend into the mix better; previous ABeatC tracks had this terrible trend of having vocals that didn't mix well into the rest of the song), the soundworld was a drop fuller, and altogether I liked it a lot, a great deal moreso for its solid production.

Actually, For Your Love is one of the worst Norma Sheffield tracks I've ever heard. She's actually had some fairly nice tracks in the past, such as Love Can Be Your Game, I Will Remember, Maybe Tonite, and Your Body Call, but even when compared to her standard level, For Your Love is absolutely terrible imo. There is absolutely no melodic substance throughout the whole piece, the production sounds incredibly watery and transparent, and the vocals are delivered without even a drop of purpose or enthusiasm; these are not problems in the aforementioned songs that I actually fairly enjoy. It's easily the worst track of the 190's so far to me, and personally I'm quite surprised that you of all people would actually happen to enjoy it. It's okay if you still like the song, but knowing your musical tastes, I was still pretty surprised by your reaction to it.

zoupzuop2 · Post by **zoupzuop2** » 02 Mar 2009, 21:20

#Infinity wrote: Actually, For Your Love is one of the worst Norma Sheffield tracks I've ever heard. She's actually had some fairly nice tracks in the past, such as Love Can Be Your Game, I Will Remember, Maybe Tonite, and Your Body Call, but even when compared to her standard level, For Your Love is absolutely terrible imo. There is absolutely no melodic substance throughout the whole piece, the production sounds incredibly watery and transparent, and the vocals are delivered without even a drop of purpose or enthusiasm; these are not problems in the aforementioned songs that I actually fairly enjoy. It's easily the worst track of the 190's so far to me, and personally I'm quite surprised that you of all people would actually happen to enjoy it. It's okay if you still like the song, but knowing your musical tastes, I was still pretty surprised by your reaction to it.

I disagree on the melodic substance. I was able to locate the "hook" in the riff, verses AND Chorus, and it seemed alright to me.
The vocals were probably 'toned down' in terms of enthusiasm due to the nature of the song (CLEARLY Aishu fodder), trying to be more intimate and emotional than energetic and active. The "wateriness", as well, seemed like part of the song to me (the sound choice for the synth riff did seem to remind me particularly of rain).

Yeah, I tend to enjoy the songs that "grab you by the neck and pour energy down your throat" with aggression and activity, but there's something to be said for the expressions in more laid-back songs. Hell, I liked "Love Can Be Our Game Tonight" too, even if it did seem a bit "generic ABeatC" at the time. I just like this song for different reasons. This song in particular seemed to show me that Pasquini and Raimondi are done experimenting with sound cues and can finally develop their songs to better fruition.

the_ditz · Post by **the_ditz** » 02 Mar 2009, 21:33

zoupzuop2 wrote:Cue the "NORMA SUXX, ABEETSEE SUXX AND IF U DONT TIHNK SO U SUXX" comments... I'm ready.

I admit that the only Norma Sheffield song I've ever really cared for is Love Collision (and that's probably because her vocals were turned down to bring more of the backing track through). For the most part, she has an incredibly whiny, muffled, "I've got cotton wool up my nose and the worst dose of the flu but I'm still gonna sing" voice and is definitely my least favoured vocalist of the Eurobeat community.

A-Beat C had sooooo many great female vocalists (Karen and Nuage to name but two) and with E. Gobbi and Domino (and all their vitality and vigour) now at GGM, it really only leaves Annalise and Norma to do all the female vocal work. For that reason, A-Beat C only really shines now when the men do the vocals (even then, a top hit isn't always guaranteed) as Annalise is sounding tired and Norma is just sounding...well, awful.

I fail to see how For Your Love can be one of the best tracks from this album. Although perhaps the fact that it is getting so much praise is proof of the general poor quality on display. I appreciate that people will have differing opinions, but I really wish I could get into one of you guys' heads when listening to For Your Love so that I can hear just exactly what appeals to you about it so much.

drnrg · Post by **drnrg** » 03 Mar 2009, 00:06

Actually For Your Love is what I concider a nice Aishu track. Simple style , but catchy. Nuage's "My Blue Sky" comes to mind. For Your Love is nowhere near the best from Norma. Your Love Is Like Lightning and Lonely Night are probly my favourite Norma tracks. The excitement of for your love as I allready mentiuoned in my review is the intro. The accapela effect and Pianos give it a nice laid back feel, but the real star is the Violines. Saddly they are only heard at the start. Soon after the song becomes a bit monotonous as little change in melody throughtout the veses and chorus is eveident.
I actually like Norma's vocals. her accent being one of the main reasons. Calling her vocals aweful is just wrong. ABeatC has had a lot of great sounding female vocalists. Elena Ferretti also being on the rostre at one TIME as half of King & Queen and Queen Of TIMEs. I didn't really care too much fro Karen's commercial sounding vocals.

As for SEB 194, the highlights are The Dall Ora tracks. Valentine's Day, All I Want Is You, I Rememeber and Forever Sad are all powerful Aishu tracks and definately the reason I really enjoyed the Love & Sweets entry.

Actually a much better souding Norma Sheffield song was "Do You Really Wanna Love Me"

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