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Mikaeru · Post by **Mikaeru** » 04 Jul 2006, 13:25

XD

*uses all of them except for #2* And generally only #1 on a sectional basis, not line/word/vowel.

oresama-chan · Post by **oresama-chan** » 04 Jul 2006, 14:33

UQ100 wrote:I did...? Sorry... it just seems it's a persistent theme here about pitching vocals and "faking" them, I thought it might be interesting to say what some often used methods for "cheating" are.

No, don't get me wrong. I didn't mean to accuse you.

UQ100 wrote: (see above post linking to clips of voice processing) less obvious with background parts.)

I know you meant the link posted on Artist Names thread by above
post linking, so I just guessed you intended to post on that thread.

Let me ask you something? What is additional artistic production?
(e.g. additional artistic production by Luca Degani)

Jion · Post by **Jion** » 04 Jul 2006, 15:16

I'm guessing additional artistic production means while the instruments, setup, way the song is going to be sung and other major things have been decided by Giacomo and Sergio, Luca recommends things such as speed, the intro, sound effects and such. He's probably the one that also writes the lyrics.

UQ100 · Post by **UQ100** » 04 Jul 2006, 15:28

oresama-chan wrote:
UQ100 wrote:I did...? Sorry... it just seems it's a persistent theme here about pitching vocals and "faking" them, I thought it might be interesting to say what some often used methods for "cheating" are.
No, don't get me wrong. I didn't mean to accuse you.

Oh, sorry!

I know I have a habit of going on about something or going off on some tangent, thought I was doing it here!

You're right, I did post the "above" thing on another thread, oops.

oresama-chan wrote: Let me ask you something? What is additional artistic production?
(e.g. additional artistic production by Luca Degani)

I haven't the faintest idea, and the funny thing is that only two sites come up on a Google search for the phrase "additional artistic production", one of which is Eurobeat Prime (and the other is irrelevant.)

I could guess it sounds like a credit for work that was done but not properly paid for, or a credit for doing nothing (like "Executive Producer" in movies).

UQ100 · Post by **UQ100** » 04 Jul 2006, 15:31

Mikaeru wrote:XD

*uses all of them except for #2* And generally only #1 on a sectional basis, not line/word/vowel.

You might care to read part of an interview in which producer Robbie Buchanan describes *Barbra Streisand's* input in comping her own vocals. (Do a search on that page for "comping" to get straight there.)

(http://www.barbra-archives.com/archives ... rview.html)

Then again, maybe you aren't after "vocal perfection" at the moment...

Jion · Post by **Jion** » 04 Jul 2006, 16:23

Looking up some information online and stuff I've read, artistic production is "beautifying or assisting in the production of an art form or music work." In other words, my guess is the additional artistic producer adds some input or assists in the production and/or composition.

Last.fm · Post by **Bore** » 04 Jul 2006, 16:50

Actually I always wondered about that Additional Artistic part myself... always just typed it into the extra info field either way, even though I had no clue what it really was about :P
I thought it might've been of relevance.

Mikaeru · Post by **Mikaeru** » 04 Jul 2006, 18:12

UQ100 wrote:
Mikaeru wrote:XD

*uses all of them except for #2* And generally only #1 on a sectional basis, not line/word/vowel.
You might care to read part of an interview in which producer Robbie Buchanan describes *Barbra Streisand's* input in comping her own vocals. (Do a search on that page for "comping" to get straight there.)

(http://www.barbra-archives.com/archives ... rview.html)

Then again, maybe you aren't after "vocal perfection" at the moment...

Oh, I know about that, it's just I'm usually not working with all that great vocals to begin with, and other issues to deal with. I'd LIKE to be able to do that, but I'm just not in a situation where I can.

Sadie · Post by **Sadie** » 04 Jul 2006, 19:35

UQ100 wrote:
oresama-chan wrote:
jeurobeat wrote:Wasn't the question about speeding up the singing, as EB is fast sometimes... and then he replied something like "I don't know what other labels do, but our artists are real". I didn't think he suggested that other labels were fake.
Ahh, that's it!
http://eurokdj.free.fr/interviews/aleph_interview.htm
I wonder how this guy managed to get hold of some of these people for interviews. His interview with Tom Hooker is quite interesting!

Yes, he has a lot a great interviews with mainly '80s Italo singers! I discovered his site just over a year ago, and like then, I'm still impressed. He does a nice job.

oresama-chan wrote:
Shawaazu wrote:I've always thought it was because, he sings as DJ Zorro so much now that he doesn't have time to sing as many Eurobeat songs, so they all go to Mega NRG Man now.
While it takes only a couple of hours to record one song? If he is also
required to compose songs, that makes sense, though.
http://www.soniaontheweb.com/daverodgers.html=

I've also wondered why we're getting so many DJ Zorro songs, but so few Mega NRG Man songs released in the past few years. Marin doesn't usually produce (he's only done, that I can recall, one or two songs), although recently he's been writing lyrics quite often.

oresama-chan · Post by **oresama-chan** » 05 Jul 2006, 02:42

Thank you guys for your search for and comments on "additional artistic production".

Now I figured out that it would be kinda credit (prolly invented by
TIME records) to go to someone who did for the production of
the song in question more than an assistant producer, but less
than a coproducer.

drnrg · Post by **drnrg** » 05 Jul 2006, 06:55

Aditional Artistic Production by Dave Hammond.
Taken from some of my older TIME 12's. Who knows what that means, There is an older Dave hammond 12'- Take Me Higher" Incredibly enuff, I don't have.

Is it Gino on Vocals?

As for the above question about Artistic Production, I kinda thought it meant a subtle way of giving credit to the coversleeve model or if the song contained Soken lines or something...or maybe it's just the way of an aditional writer crying out "Hey I came up with the C-mellow"

UQ100 · Post by **UQ100** » 05 Jul 2006, 13:01

I think to an extent credits should be taken with pinch of salt, especially if they're vague. Sometimes "the boss" gets credits for doing nothing--or at least not what the credits say. Sometimes people get credits that don't mean a thing, even if they appear to. ("Vocals arranged by Den Harrow," it says on my "Best of Den Harrow" album.) OTOH, apparently Christina Aguilera got an "Additional vocal arrangement" credit because her she contributed some melody ideas to "Genie in a Bottle". But obviously she's not getting songwriting royalties.

oresama-chan · Post by **oresama-chan** » 05 Jul 2006, 14:10

drnrg wrote:Aditional Artistic Production by Dave Hammond.
Taken from some of my older TIME 12's. Who knows what that means, There is an older Dave hammond 12'- Take Me Higher" Incredibly enuff, I don't have. Is it Gino on Vocals?

It's Giancarlo Pasquini on vocals. I guess Dave Hammond was
an alias of Giancarlo when he arranged songs.

e.g.
Atrium - Jolly Joker
Produced by Giacomo Maiolini
Arranged by G.Maiolini & Dave Hammond
Recorded and Mixed by Frank Torpedo (=Mr. Gelmetti)

Mike Hammer - Hey Man
Produced by Giacomo Maiolini
Arranged by Dave Hammond and Frank Torpedo
Recorded and Mixed at Time Studio by Frank Torpedo

Dave Hammond - Take Me Higher
Original Sound Made by Time Records
Arranged by Dave Hammond & Frank Torpedo
Recorded at Time Studio by Frank Torpedo
Mixed by Laurent G. Newfield at Time Studio

UQ100 wrote:Sometimes "the boss" gets credits for doing nothing

You mean Giacomo Maiolini? I've always been wondering
what he is doing.

Shawaazu · Post by **Shawaazu** » 05 Jul 2006, 15:46

UQ100 wrote:I think to an extent credits should be taken with pinch of salt, especially if they're vague.

Yeah, I always find it interesting to know who wrote the lyrics and who wrote the music etc. And it's quite vague in SEB terms since it's just a list of names. Especially if it's a long list of names (e.g. In The Dark / Silver or Any Song / Dr's Girl), you want to know what exactly did each person do in the production of the song.

oresama-chan · Post by **oresama-chan** » 06 Jul 2006, 00:26

Shawaazu wrote:you want to know what exactly did each person do in the production of the song.

Absolutely. Just try Data base search on "Music Forest" and you
can learn the composer, lyricist and publisher for each track.

[how to search]:
If you want to search by artist name, click on メインアーティストで探す,
type artist name, and click 検索 or press Enter key on your PC.
(For illustration, I will search "dr's girl" here)

Then you will see this page.

Click on the green book icon on the right and this page come out.

Click on the green book詳　icon and you'll see the details of the credits.
http://www.minc.gr.jp/minc-bin/sak_inf? ... D=0F797521
作曲=composer 作詞=lyricist 出版社=publisher

Hope you find this site useful.

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