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OK,

- I didn't like Goodnight Kiss. I guess I'm the opposite of the majority thinking guy again...

- Dusty's song looks OK, good chorus btw
- As I stated b4, I don't like Garçon, so this song is no exception.
- Jacky O''s song surprised me. I must say that it's not bad at all
- Pamsy... Pamsy... WOAH! Another Once Upon A Time in my target!
- Susy Time, pretty good song i must say.
- For Norma, it's still of my no-no artist...
- Louise's song, I totally loved it.
- Brian Ice's song is pretty nice.
- Matt Land... Gunfire was good but not Bad Boys. Sorry.
- Helena... another no-no artist to me. Bad song but I have to say +1 for originality in the melody.
- No words discribe how much I don't like Annalise's work.
- Big In Japan 2k7... I must say that I am impressed. Even if many of you may not like Mr. M's voice instead of Robert Patton's.
- I forgot about Renoir. Her song let me think of some sort of Cascada or Groove Coverage song. I love it
- *gets out the shotgun for the duo of Dave & Nuage*
- For Jimmy's song... hum... huh... next.
- Nick Mansell... Eeeeeeeeeeeee-Yah! That's why I love SCP!
- Paul Dickenson got a good song here... surprised... but his voice is similar to someone I've heard before...

That's my little comments on the previews.

Something I want to point. It's the first time Avex put simples online with the all a full riff!

Not very convinced by the samples. Honestly, I can't really pick out any major classics at the moment, since most of the titles I was anticipating ended up disappointing me.

Crazy Race On The Street is the best song of the bunch for me, as it's the only memorable track without any downright problems. The chorus suggests that it's definitely not something for everyone, but it's still angsty wackiness at its best. I also like the backgrounds in You Kiss My Lover, Night Fighter, and Time For A Miracle, but the overall styles of the vocalists don't really fit their individual tracks (Louise's voice is just weak, Jacky 'O really needs to stop smoking cigarettes, and Paul Dickenson should definitely go back to singing symphonic music). Because I Need U is interesting, but it definitely sounds as if it's on the wrong compilation for sure.

The Lovebite and I Feel Emotions are good, but it really seems as if there could've been a lot more to them. Burn Into The Beat, which sounds like a slower Feel The Power, is also solid, if not amazing either. I expected a bit more from Goodnight Kiss, but the c-melody sounds really hot.

Kiss Me and Save Your Voice To Sing A Song were both better than I expected. Not great, but a lot better than A-Beat's other appearances. I'll Be Waiting suffers Norma's typically subpar vocalwork, Bad Boys practically sounds incomplete without the much-needed edge from GGM, and Tell Me is pretty much just meh. Neither Time remakes impressed me very much (and what's with Big In Japan 2007 ripping off Don't Stop The Music's sabi and slightly reworking it?), and Spanish Affairs was a rather typical, forgettable Ferretti performance aside from the additional Spanish elements that made it a little better than her other stuff. It's rather hard to describe it, but I really don't like Sexy Crazy Girl at all. It just sounds average, without anything in the right place.

After hearing these samples, Super Eurobeat 183 doesn't sound all that great to me and will surely be a major step down from 182. Not the worst yet, but the lack of any major standouts puts it way below general standards, especially when you compare the tracklist in front of the last few albums. Well, they can't all be perfect, but hopefully 184 will turn out better.

first off.. thanks Cheesman for the samples.

first impesseins, short but sweet
TIME= All Jackpots
HRG Attack= Perfect NRG
DELTA= Surprisingly MEGA!
AbeatC= Nuetral, but nice
SCP= All crackpots
Go Go's= Not sure who's who, Lollita=miss
Renoir= Don't know don't care, but obviously on the wrong cd.

Dusty- Love Bite = I only like the main riff, the chorus sounds weak
Garcon- Crazy Race In The Street= I love this! Purely my style!
Lollita- Goodnight Kiss= Not my style at all.
Jacky O- Night Fighter= I guess they changed the artist from Jackson O to Jacky O, since it's no longer Lorenzo? This one will surly be my Favorite!!!
Pamsy- I Feel Emotions= I really have a huge problem when SCP uses these somwhat "Transy" soundworlds. Sad.
Renoir- Because I Need You= The artist sounds familiar,nothing against but this not even Eurobeat to my ears. It's just aweful aweful aweful!
Suzy TIME- On Fire 2007= It's about TIME that TIME records incorporated the word TIME in thier artist name. It's not Dhany, so I'm thinking Elena. Anyways, I like it
Norma Sheffield- I'll Be Waiting= I was one of the fans waiting for her return and this track sounds very nice.
Louis- You Kiss My Lover= Hell YESS! Another bomba. The female is less hyped like Ciao Ciao. I really missed the HRG mellow sound.
Brian Ice- Save Your Voice To Sing A Song= Over the top extremely long title aside, this song has a wonderful melody.
Matt Land- Bad Boys= It's not as bad as you guys make it seem. Seems you are judging because it's not GO GO Music. It's actually pretty catchy.
Helena- Spanish Affairs= Mucho Caliente. The riff sounds Kasanova- like. Flameco effects =WIN WIN WIN !
Annalise- Kiss Me= Not bad, but not good enuff to follow Henena's song.
Mr. M- Big In Japan 2007- Two remakes and both mega! The difference here is the keyboards used in the riff as opposed to DiMarcantonio's guitars.
Dave & Nuage- Tell Me= I like this melody reminds me of his Bella & Blue days at FLEA .
Jimmy Diamond- Crazy Sexy Girl = The title sounds very TIME, but this is no Doubt DELTA. Just the DELTA style I love.
Nick Mansel- Burn Into The Beat= Not a huge Nick fan, but this song sounds extra wicked in the Italo like RIFF.
Paul Dickenson- TIME for a Miracle- WOW. That riff reminds me of Mark Astly's "Iron Man. LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT!!

drnrg wrote:Suzy TIME- On Fire 2007= It's about TIME that TIME records incorporated the word TIME in thier artist name. It's not Dhany, so I'm thinking Elena. Anyways, I like it

Actually, I think it is Daniela. The tone and pronunciation between the vocalists is occasionally a bit difficult to differentiate, but if you listen to it closely enough, you can definitely hear trademark qualities of Dany's voice.

drnrg wrote:Matt Land- Bad Boys= It's not as bad as you guys make it seem. Seems you are judging because it's not GO GO Music. It's actually pretty catchy.

I personally don't dislike it, but the song itself doesn't fit the light backgrounds at all, which is why I'm disappointed it isn't a GGM production. Brian Ice's track actually sounded good synth-wise, but here that definitely isn't the case.

#Infinity

Actually, I think it is Daniela. The tone and pronunciation between the vocalists is occasionally a bit difficult to differentiate, but if you listen to it closely enough, you can definitely hear trademark qualities of Dany's voice

I suppose you're right

By the way, did anyone else get a Powerful T. vibe out of Paul Dickenson's vocal style. At least it sonds a bit his style by the way he sings the chorus. A very Powerful song from DELTA!

Paul Dickenson actually reminded me a lot more of Fabio Lione aka J. Storm, but we all know he officially stopped producing eurobeat tracks back in 2005, so it's definitely not a new alias for him.

To be honest, I'm not sure about the track's vocals right now, but I do think I'll come to like Time For A Miracle a lot more as I get used to them. The song is in the exact typical style that I love hearing from Delta.

What the hell, I'll comment too.

A lot of songs I just plain don't like here, but it seems like that's always the way... I always feel like I'm some kind of 'idiot in the land of self-proclaimed-experts' around here, and so I try not to give my opinion too much, but hey, it's the internet, so I might as well.

The songs that I did like from the previews so far would have to be "The Lovebite", "Night Fighter", The Brian Ice song with the long title, and "Burn Into the Beat". I guess I just don't like when the genre starts to walk down disco-ish, pseudo trance-pop, or starts to shift towards a more common genre in general, so a lot of the 'standard' songs that most seem to find too plain or boring, end up being ones I like...

I don't know how to feel about that, heh.

I'm not going to comment until I hear the whole songs

Nine wrote:I'm not going to comment until I hear the whole songs

Ditto. No need to hear a little sample, go "OMFGWORSTSONGSEVAR" and then be blown away by the entire thing.

It's actually kinda interesting to see how first impressions change once one has heard the entire song. Many a catchy bridge or brilliant lyrics in the verses have changed my mind, esp when it comes to SCP I have even seen when people hate the edit and for some strange reason go nuts over the extended. but it's expected in this crazy Eurobeat world.

#Infinity

Paul Dickenson actually reminded me a lot more of Fabio Lione aka J. Storm, but we all know he officially stopped producing eurobeat tracks back in 2005, so it's definitely not a new alias for him.

Another interesting idea. I can say one thing, it definately sounds like Paul Dickenson has sung some Heavy Metal or other form of rock on the side.

drnrg wrote: I have even seen when people hate the edit and for some strange reason go nuts over the extended. but it's expected in this crazy Eurobeat world.

My guess is that it's kind of the elitist/"But I'm a DJ!! Really!!!" attitude that goes around at times. Just another form of snobbery intended to try and "weed out" people that don't come across as being "hardcore enough".

So far, tracks 2, 3, 6, 9, 13, 14, 17, 18 are sticking out for me.

Garcon - Crazy Race On The Street - Is this the follow-up to Superfast Tokyo Drift? Anyways, this sounds pretty good so far, even if it is typical HI-NRG attack fare.

Lolita - Goodnight Kiss - YES!!! It's been a while since I've heard happy, girly eurobeat, especially from Elena Gobbi. Hopefully, we'll be hearing as many good Lolita tracks as we did back in the 100-149 era. This sample is giving me warm fuzzies inside.

Renoir - Because I Need U - This is not eurobeat. This sounds much more like progressive/euro trance. However, the sample does sound good so far. Why did Avex decide to put this song right next to another trance-oriented song (the Pamsy one), though?

Louise - You Kiss My Lover - When I first heard this sample, I immediately heard the galloping bass line (da da-da da da-da da - 1 eighth note, followed by 2 sixteenths (if you know anything about music theory)). This took me back to the original Heartbreaker (from SEB 023), and sounds a lot like some early eurobeat/HI-NRG (not HI-NRG Attack, but the subgenre that partially evolved from Italo Disco in the mid-late 80's). However, there are elements that make it firmly in the 2000's era (like the TIME-like synths near the end of the sample).

Annalise - Kiss Me - More girly eurobeat. This sample also made me happy, though not as happy as the Lolita one.

Mr. M - Big In Japan 2007 - I never heard the original song. However, this remake sounds pretty good so far. The only thing that seems bad about it is the repetition of "Big In Japan" a few too many times.

Nick Mansell - Burn Into The Beat - This song sounds awesome! It reminds me of "Feel The Power" (probably because they are both in C-minor and start with the same E-flat - D - C note progression). Still, despite them sounding very similar, "Feel The Power" was a great song, so this one will probably be too.

Paul Dickenson - Time For A Miracle - Love the riff at the end of the sample! Other than that, it just sounds very well-rounded!

Hopefully, the rest of these songs will be as good as the samples, and the mediocre samples will have the rest of the song be better.

JasonMath

Louise - You Kiss My Lover - When I first heard this sample, I immediately heard the galloping bass line (da da-da da da-da da - 1 eighth note, followed by 2 sixteenths (if you know anything about music theory)). This took me back to the original Heartbreaker (from SEB 023), and sounds a lot like some early eurobeat/HI-NRG (not HI-NRG Attack, but the subgenre that partially evolved from Italo Disco in the mid-late 80's). However, there are elements that make it firmly in the 2000's era (like the TIME-like synths near the end of the sample).

I love the fact that someone else besides me noticed this. I someTIMES call it the revolving bass line. I remeber ABeatC used it a lot at thier start on songs like Burning Heart and Commedia. I hope other labels pick up on this style again. A perfect fuse of Old and New skool Eurobeat

Check your P.M.s later tonight.

drnrg wrote:I love the fact that someone else besides me noticed this. I someTIMES call it the revolving bass line. I remeber ABeatC used it a lot at thier start on songs like Burning Heart and Commedia. I hope other labels pick up on this style again. A perfect fuse of Old and New skool Eurobeat

Indeed! Just like in Delta Queens with Satisfaction and Dance Around The World, some time ago.

I'm just happy that we finally get samples that feature the complete chorus AND complete synth hook - gives an overall better impression of what the finished song is going to sound like.

Nothing majorly stood out for me to be honest - Dusty was the only one that appealed to me somewhat...