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Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 15:30
by Crockett
DirectorK wrote:I just spoken with Roberto Gabrielli through an open letter I sent him yesterday. He understands our frustration and acknowledges what we want so he's going to everything he can to try to get Eurobeat online.
Could you quote at least one his real sentence?
Because he told me know this as a summary for your letter:
"I have never complained about EUROLOVERS. But when I found that earning money in my place .... I had to do it. Moreover... ... It was not a normal person .... Had over 4000 songs on the channel ... way too many!"
"Here are still my songs on youtube. 1000 views each video ... Back catalog. It's not important. I'll never make the claim."
"But I would not hesitate to close another channel if I had to realize some anomaly .... too many videos ... too recent songs etc. Got it now?"
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 16:10
by MAITANZA
Lebon14 wrote:MAITANZA wrote:I prefer SEB edits and Extended versions instead.
I'm not sure if I'm following you. However, if you actually read the comment after I wrote that, you'd discover why I wrote that in the first place.
Wait a second, that's it! Disc 1 should be SEB Edits and while Disc 2 should be Extended versions...That idea suddenly pop inside my head for no reason....I'm full of ideas y'see...Sounds fascinating isn't it? But yes, best idea ever.
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 16:39
by xiao
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 16:50
by Lebon14
MAITANZA wrote:Lebon14 wrote:MAITANZA wrote:I prefer SEB edits and Extended versions instead.
I'm not sure if I'm following you. However, if you actually read the comment after I wrote that, you'd discover why I wrote that in the first place.
Wait a second, that's it! Disc 1 should be SEB Edits and while Disc 2 should be Extended versions...That idea suddenly pop inside my head for no reason....I'm full of ideas y'see...Sounds fascinating isn't it? But yes, best idea ever.
Most suicidal financially idea ever. Why press two CDs for the same tracks? On a business level, it doesn't make any sense to do that. One CD - Extended. That's it, that's all. If you want edits, you can do it yourself pretty easily with Adobe Audition or Audacity. They are very easy to do most of the time.
xiao wrote:He was a DJ ~ ♫
Wat. Do you REALLY know who EUROLOVER was? Or that was a comment full of air?
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 19:08
by para_rigby
Lebon14 wrote:MAITANZA wrote:Lebon14 wrote:
I'm not sure if I'm following you. However, if you actually read the comment after I wrote that, you'd discover why I wrote that in the first place.
Wait a second, that's it! Disc 1 should be SEB Edits and while Disc 2 should be Extended versions...That idea suddenly pop inside my head for no reason....I'm full of ideas y'see...Sounds fascinating isn't it? But yes, best idea ever.
Most suicidal financially idea ever. Why press two CDs for the same tracks? On a business level, it doesn't make any sense to do that. One CD - Extended. That's it, that's all. If you want edits, you can do it yourself pretty easily with Adobe Audition or Audacity. They are very easy to do most of the time.
xiao wrote:He was a DJ ~ ♫
Wat. Do you REALLY know who EUROLOVER was? Or that was a comment full of air?
I agree with you Lebon. It's a horrible idea to have 2 albums of the same songs. Either Avex should do edits or extends...not both. The only way they could do both is a CD of edit and digital extends, but still...weird idea, Maitanza.
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 19:12
by DirectorK
Crockett wrote:Could you quote at least one his real sentence?
Because he told me know this as a summary for your letter:
"I have never complained about EUROLOVERS. But when I found that earning money in my place .... I had to do it. Moreover... ... It was not a normal person .... Had over 4000 songs on the channel ... way too many!"
"Here are still my songs on youtube. 1000 views each video ... Back catalog. It's not important. I'll never make the claim."
"But I would not hesitate to close another channel if I had to realize some anomaly .... too many videos ... too recent songs etc. Got it now?"
This is what he wrote to me.
Dear DirectorK,
I really appreciated your words. I could breathe so much sincerity and passion. I will not discuss the usefulness of EUROLOVERS. I understood what you said. I did not lose a word concerning your message! Unfortunately, EUROLOVERS made a serious mistake .... has monetized videos. You know what I mean? He cut his head alone. Youtube pay for views and this goes beyond simply publishing online. You think it's someone who works for AVEX? I do not know ... it could be any of us producers, or some editors. I do not know.
I write Eurobeat for almost 30 years and has not been easy so far. I had to fight with thieves Producers, Publishers dishonest and incapable. I spent my life making music. You say that an import compilation costs so much. I believe it. But do you know how much it costs to create a song? I tell you, most of the compilation costs. I tell you this to make you understand that it is a sacrifice to do new songs. I can accept to hear them online. But I can not accept that someone else will take the gains. I wrote to EUROLOVERS, I wanted to talk to him. He ignored me. I take responsibility of the closure of his youtube channel. Actually, he was not to monetize videos! He was dishonest!
I'm really sorry to have left this emptiness inside of you.
I can understand without problems.
Open a road with the Avex will not be easy for me, but I already know who to send my message. I've already talked to the Delta (the label that publishes my pieces) and i'm look for answers.
I understand it is a delicate conversation to do and it will take time to fix the situation.
You think I do not want to sell on iTunes Amazon etc etc? I can not wait that to happen.
I'm not a miracle man. I do not know how it will end this whole story. But I guarantee you that beacon all that is in my ability to reach the goal: to have the songs online from Avex!
I never got the impression that he had an issue with a channel that had too many videos, only that the person was monetizing them. And most of EUROLOVERS videos were music from the first 200 albums, and probably a third of those were Hi-NRG Attack music.
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 19:49
by M2-EB
If someone owns a channel on YouTube for some time and uploads eurobeat they'll know that it's not possible to monetize most songs. They are monetized by the claimants and I'll never stop stressing this out
About all the rest… I understand the struggle: artists are seen as either a "divinity" or something that they own people to - in both cases, they are valued as lesser professionals - but who needs to eat and pay bills, am I right? Please, don't tell me the labels are still into this solely for money because I've got some news for you.............................
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 23:06
by Bonkers
MAITANZA wrote:Lebon14 wrote:MAITANZA wrote:I prefer SEB edits and Extended versions instead.
I'm not sure if I'm following you. However, if you actually read the comment after I wrote that, you'd discover why I wrote that in the first place.
Wait a second, that's it! Disc 1 should be SEB Edits and while Disc 2 should be Extended versions...That idea suddenly pop inside my head for no reason....I'm full of ideas y'see...Sounds fascinating isn't it? But yes, best idea ever.
I wish it was Disc 1 extended, Disc 2 non-stop of past tracks/decades/mixed eras
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 23:15
by DirectorK
M2-EB wrote:If someone owns a channel on YouTube for some time and uploads eurobeat they'll know that it's not possible to monetize most songs. They are monetized by the claimants and I'll never stop stressing this out
About all the rest… I understand the struggle: artists are seen as either a "divinity" or something that they own people to - in both cases, they are valued as lesser professionals - but who needs to eat and pay bills, am I right? Please, don't tell me the labels are still into this solely for money because I've got some news for you.............................
I agree with you but it still raises the question of why EUROLOVERS never replied back to the Roberto and others about the monetizing thing. All he had to tell them was that he wasn't doing it on purpose and that YouTube was automatically doing it through the Content ID system. Then they might have let him off or had come to his defense should he have gotten terminated. But since he never replied(if fact, I don't think he replied to anyone including me) they had assume that he was doing it on purpose. So if that was the case, in their defense they were left with no other choice.
Posted: 07 Dec 2016, 00:36
by xiao
Posted: 07 Dec 2016, 00:53
by Lebon14
xiao wrote:Lebon14 wrote:Or that was a comment full of air?
You know him too ^_~
☆
Are you implying that it was DJ Boss?! If so, show the proof.
Posted: 07 Dec 2016, 02:53
by xiao
Posted: 07 Dec 2016, 03:00
by Lebon14
xiao wrote:Lebon14 wrote:Are you implying that it was DJ Boss?! If so, show the proof.
Wrong DJ ~ ♪
... but when I meant you knew him ... I meant you
knew him ~
Proof will follow whence he is unfollowed ~ ♫
A DJ I know? There's Mudkip (MKwiakaku), there's Pete Ellisson (Initial P, owner of Disko Warp) that DJ his stuff... Otherwise, I'm kind of lost.
Posted: 07 Dec 2016, 03:03
by xiao
Posted: 07 Dec 2016, 04:42
by Lebon14
xiao wrote:Lebon14 wrote:I'm kind of lost.
Confer previous post
☆ but yeah ~ you do know him and he was most definitely Japanesey.
♪ ♫
Skyblue? That's the only one I could think of.