Super Eurobeat 181

[zoupzuop2]

Aw, what the hell. Why not jump in?

IN LEBON'S DEFENSE: He is entitled to his opinion, and if he doesn't prefer Delta tracks then so be it.
CONTRARY TO LEBON: There IS a bit of a difference between stating an opinion ("I don't like _______") and thrashing the subject of said opinion ("______ is ****!"). If you really think so poorly of a label or artist, why not explain WHY you dislike them? If you hate them so much, maybe a personal blog or something to that effect would be more useful.

And, as it was previously pointed out, constructive criticism is a far preferred method of stating issues with artists, labels, or songs.
For the sake of demonstration, some of my own quips:

To HI-NRG Attack: The songs released that are simply compilations of Eurobeat titles, either your own or of other labels, tend to be rather weak. While they don't lack their own creativity, I tend to find them as "cheap" and lower-quality than you have proven you can put out.

To Dave Rodgers: Dave, you've been a driving force in Eurobeat for the longest time; however, as of late some of your more recent tracks seem to have been lacking the same "punch" as some of your former hits. Using chords instead of individual notes in Sabis, I would think, would be the culprit, along with a new pressure to produce more tracks on your own (due to the recent formation of GGM). Maybe if you directed your attention on making, instead of a few "meh-worthy" songs for each SEB, focusing on one or two potential smash-hits? To be honest, I can't say I preferred such tracks as "California Dreamin'" and even "Red Core" (although Stef Burns IS a great guitar player).
To SAIFAM: Why do you insist on releasing "Eurobeat" albums in the American iTunes stores that is seldom ever Eurobeat to begin with? You've released Eurobeat before, you know what it is (you were practically present at the invention!!), and yet you sell tracks that are NOT Eurobeat under such a title. Why do you do this, when Hi-NRG Attack, a competitor, is releasing not only MORE Eurobeat more frequently, but even releasing some of their direst classics? Is there a reason you can't release more "Eurobeat-y", higher-quality tracks to America; maybe even the classic "Boom Boom Dollar"? Jenny ROM gets quite a few hits on American iTunes because of Dance Dance Revolution; BBD got the same treatment and would most likely enjoy HIGH sales in the USA by DDR fans.

See? I actually have FAR fierier opinions on some of those matters, but even negative feelin's towards something can garner good information.

Now. Regarding 181...
*I'm hoping to see if HRG pulls out a sleeper hit or another high-quality number, like Moo Moo Dollars or Danger In Chinatown before 181. They tend to be rather hit-or-miss in my experience.
*ABeatC should be seeing that they need to focus on a few good songs instead of filling SEB to the brim (I.E, quality over quantity). I wonder if they simply underestimated the Go Go's, and have by now learned from that? They've put out some rather accessible tunes in the 170s (I.E, some songs even Non-EB fans have liked in my experience), they should keep thta up!
*Delta and SCP have been really easy to get along with in the 170's, with some good all-around material mixed in with some smash-hits. Here's hoping for the next "Running Ninja" and "Futureland"~
*Time... seems to have fluctuated. They've put out garbage just as oft as they've put out gold, with very little middle-ground; it seems odd that I loved Speed Man just as much as I found Night Melody rather boring. Wonder what they're up to?

[Lebon14]

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...Oh yeah..and Thanks Lebon for remeinding us and possibly other premier producers of how much you disliked the last SEB entry to the point of cursing it and calling it s**T. That's a real inspiration to the community. If I sound Sarcastic..Good! That's exactly waht I was aiming for

I just don't want to have another SEB 179. That's it Thats's all. Daniel is just putting a bad feeling on the quality.

CONTRARY TO LEBON: There IS a bit of a difference between stating an opinion ("I don't like _______") and thrashing the subject of said opinion ("______ is ****!"). If you really think so poorly of a label or artist, why not explain WHY you dislike them? If you hate them so much, maybe a personal blog or something to that effect would be more useful.

We call this a rant or "to rant" something.

My words to labels :

SCP : I was somewhat really happy about the song you released in the last decade!! Keep the good word and keep the exciting songs coming! I like them a lot and I'm a fan of your work so far! The last decade was just "WOW!!"

Delta : Sorry for all the rants. But, I just cannot find happiness in your songs. Sorry to say that, they are just boring to me.

A-Beat-C : I'm looking forward to your work. I'm not a big fan nor a a big hater of your works. I'm looking forward to something more original.

Go Go's Music : Well, I'm rather impressed by your performances so far! I'm looking forward for more prestations!

Hi-NRG Attack : Like A-Beat-C, I'm not a big fan nor a big hater of your work but it's sure that I'm looking forward to a good bazooka song

Time : I think you should cover up more piece of gold of the past like "Space Boy" by Dave Rodgers, "Sugar baby" by Alexis, "Dance Around The World" by Delta Queens, "King And Queen" by King & Queen, etc. Those can turn out a major seller! Anyway, I'm neither a fan or hater of your work.

That's it.

[pokecapn]

I just don't want to have another SEB 179. That's it Thats's all. Daniel is just putting a bad feeling on the quality.

And while you say that, I think Daniel's vocal work is fantastic and Newfield's aggressive beats back it up with style.

(I wonder if it's coincidence that I was listening to Super Euro Best 100 and right when I clicked reply, Mike Hammer - Big Mouth came on? )

[Lebon14]

I just don't want to have another SEB 179. That's it Thats's all. Daniel is just putting a bad feeling on the quality.

And while you say that, I think Daniel's vocal work is fantastic and Newfield's aggressive beats back it up with style.

Sarcastic heh? I think the opposite by the way for Daniel.

[Densetsu13]

Time : I think you should cover up more piece of gold of the past like "Space Boy" by Dave Rodgers, "Sugar baby" by Alexis, "Dance Around The World" by Delta Queens, "King And Queen" by King & Queen, etc. Those can turn out a major seller! Anyway, I'm neither a fan or hater of your work.

That's it.

Some of those songs are not Time creations ;

[drnrg]

Lebon 14

"Dance Around The World" by Delta Queens,

hey lebon seems you do like DELTA after all. You called that song gold. ..and thgough it's not TIME , I finally agree with you on something

[Sadie]

Also, there are no A-Beat C songs listed yet. You'd expect a few already considering they get most of the tracks on Super Eurobeat. Although, if they aren't present on 181, I personally wouldn't miss them after their downfall during the 170's.

Rest of the tracks are probably ABeatC and Go Go's Music songs.
I would miss both the labels endlessly...!

Lebon, we all know you hate 179. Pick a new topic, and maybe this time something not so negative.

Totally agree with this statement...

Also... am I the only person who thinks this Daniel guy is awesome?! C'MON! This is what I like to see from Delta! <3333
(PS- Daniel is the best recent artist to enter the SEB series since Neo.)
Maurizio De Jorio returning (reappearing?), or is it a new singer like Jayveemon wrote? SAD... I miss De Jorio...

[Wataru Akiyama]

Lebon, we all know you hate 179. Pick a new topic, and maybe this time something not so negative.

He's getting like the subject of you and domino now. Jeezus, we get the point, lebon! You don't like 179! Enough already and move onto something else that's less grating on everyone.

@Sadie: You are not alone. I f__king loved Frontal Impact and One More Try. Daniel is one of my favorite new artists.

[valiant]

Hey I love Daniel too! *joins the Daniel Fanclub*

[drnrg]

I'll give a thumbs up to the Daniel love too. DELTA has been getting so much better with tracks like "One More Try", "Damn Damn My Heart" and the ever AWESOME "Iron Man" Really excited to see what they got in store for the next 10 SEBs.

[Lebon14]

Lebon 14

"Dance Around The World" by Delta Queens,

hey lebon seems you do like DELTA after all. You called that song gold. ..and thgough it's not TIME , I finally agree with you on something

I know it's not Time (proof Dave Rodgers is A-Beat-C). Time can take them and remix them like we saw earlier. And, BTW, it's just that I'm very picky for Delta songs. More than the other labels.

A couple of songs (all of them) that I like from the last decade
- Cherry - Rain
- Delta Queens - Damn Damn My Heart
- Stephy Martini - Mad Desire
- Queen 26 - Keep On Loving You
- Kochiss - Born To Love You

[DigitalCyber]

Daniels songs have been pretty amazing. although I honestly didnt care for Bach is Back at all but Frontal Impact was imo one of the best delta tracks of the 170s and One More Try was original and refreshing

[#Infinity]

I also agree that Daniel has been awesome so far. Just about all of Frontal Impact's elements came together perfectly for one of the best songs of the 170's.

[jeurobeat]

Just a few nights ago I got Email form one of Eurobeat Primier producers, Asking me If I think that fans really like Eurobeat songs. In especially pointing some out the negative feedback that SEB 179 got(I won't name names) I quote " I got mix feelings about AVEX latest Super Eurobeat entry" this leads me to believe that those nagative comments does have an effect on Eurobeat producers.

I didn't want to respond in this topic in the first place, but after reading this I really feel I should. Having listened to italo and eurobeat for more than 20 years now, with hundreds of favorites, it's difficult to like everything that's being released currently. However, as someone said before on this forum, even the worst eurobeat songs are much better than any song in any other music style (at least in my opinion). And still, there are many new songs that strike me, even some that will remain among my most favorite songs for the upcoming years.

Each of the labels has its excellent quality songs: Into The Daylight, Caterpillar Man, Yo Yo Baby, Ready Steady Go, Love Is Like A Fever, Die Die, Iron Man, Baby Illusion, Help Me, Super Eurobeat, Ready To Start... just to name a few of the recent songs that I really like.

It's a pity that people tend to write about the negative things, and take the positive things for granted (and don't write about it). That doesn't apply to everyone ofcourse, but it's just the way many people are. Don't worry about it. At least I'm glad that eurobeat is still being made.

[JasonMath]

Count me in the Daniel fanclub too. I really liked the style of Bach Is Back! In addition, even though I thought that Frontal Impact wasn't so great at first, I gradually came to enjoy the song after about 3-4 listens.

Anyways, the track list does look pretty good. However, the combination of Go 2 and Christine does sound a little bit weird. Seeing Go 2's style of music (energetic and heavy on electric guitars) and Christine's style (generally more calm, especially with songs such as Rain and Summer Ski), it seems odd that they would be combined. It seems like this would end up being a eurobeat song with trance and heavy metal influence. This is not unprecedented, as there is a subgenre of psychedelic trance called "buttrock goa" (which combines psychedelic trance with heavy metal-style guitars), but it is still going to be interesting how this works. The song is probably going to be surprisingly good (and innovative) or have very conflicting elements. I hope it's more of the former.