Eurobeat Prime :: Forum

Will154 wrote:

Tiger wrote: Yes, avex has made some bad decisions, but they don't do it for no reason.

Oh please...Tell me one logical reason that made Avex do all this crap !
idforums btw , is nothing compared to the piracy in Japan...espcially in the share times...

Any proof for your claim?

Will154 wrote:THEY STOPPED PRODUCING VINYLS ?!?
Im seriously pissed now...

um... they haven't produced anything since like 188...it could also be due to there being only 2 vinyl shops in japan now

valiant wrote:

Will154 wrote:

Tiger wrote: Yes, avex has made some bad decisions, but they don't do it for no reason.

Oh please...Tell me one logical reason that made Avex do all this crap !
idforums btw , is nothing compared to the piracy in Japan...espcially in the share times...

Any proof for your claim?

A year ago , The japanese p2p programs showed at least 10 SEBs per album. And there where even ParaPara DVDs...
But the guy who had those p2p (Winny , Share...) is in jail and pretty much everything is dead...
But im guessing the japanese didn't start to buy SEB anyways since they sell like 2000 copies per album ?

MesdoramElmdor wrote:There is no way to prevent piracy. Somebody is always going to order the album and upload it somewhere anyways. Avex not allowing the US to legally download SEBs is more than likely going to lead to MORE people not wanting to pay the hefty importing fees and more people pirating the albums. Good going Avex, real smart move there, lol.

As Javy wrote, the non-Japanese download ban could have been done by a third party. I can't speak for any of the contracts or deals, but I'd imagine Avex is licensed the tracks for distribution in the Japanese market. Pure speculation but maybe one or two of the labels that do their own publishing felt they were losing sales to other markets because Avex allowed foreign purchases?

Yeah, from a fan perspective, Avex does some things that seem really stupid, but not much beyond what you see some of the major labels Stateside doing.

Will154 wrote:

valiant wrote:

Will154 wrote: Oh please...Tell me one logical reason that made Avex do all this crap !
idforums btw , is nothing compared to the piracy in Japan...espcially in the share times...

Any proof for your claim?

A year ago , The japanese p2p programs showed at least 10 SEBs per album. And there where even ParaPara DVDs...
But the guy who had those p2p (Winny , Share...) is in jail and pretty much everything is dead...
But im guessing the japanese didn't start to buy SEB anyways since they sell like 2000 copies per album ?

That doesn't mean there is more piracy, that just means the Japanese are harsher on piracy (and probably more attentive)

Hence how in the world does that mean there is more piracy in Japan vs the states or elsewhere?

Ironically the death of Eurobeat and SEB will be.... by AVEX themselves.

That's all I have to say.

drnrg wrote:Ironically the death of Eurobeat and SEB will be.... by AVEX themselves.

That's all I have to say.

SEB, yes.
Eurobeat, hell no. As long as there are labels (and the ones that are doing just fine outside of Avex), there will be Eurobeat. As long as there are fans making music, as long as there's fans listening to the fan-work and the "indie" productions that the labels make to the side, there will be Eurobeat. Avex can kill a compilation, but they will never kill a genre.

^
I highly disagree, all the label's main source of income would be over (Hell....you think there is a good eurobeat market in the States/Europe... what a joke!)

The eurobeat genre would fall right after the SEB serie falls.

valiant wrote:^
I highly disagree, all the label's main source of income would be over (Hell....you think there is a good eurobeat market in the States/Europe... what a joke!)

The eurobeat genre would fall right after the SEB serie falls.

I didn't say there was a good market in the States. A growing one with potential for further growth, maybe, but not a Good one. If I DID say that recently, I must've misstated. (I don't know how it'd do in Europe, seeing as I don't live there.)

And, who says another label other than Avex wouldn't be willing to publish Eurobeat? Newfield was able to find venues in Warner Brothers and another label (the name of which I've forgotten) through Akyr, for instance; who's to say another label isn't willing to pick it up?

If anything, it'd free up the labels to do their own advertising, play their OWN shows without being inhibited from it, sell their music HOWEVER the hell they want... if the labels are willing to do some extra legwork, they could survive the fall of SEB just fine. Not easily, it wouldn't be fun; but I'm sure if they did all the things they needed (and now can do without Avex's hindrances), they'd do okay.

zoupzuop2 wrote:And, who says another label other than Avex wouldn't be willing to publish Eurobeat? Newfield was able to find venues in Warner Brothers and another label (the name of which I've forgotten) through Akyr, for instance; who's to say another label isn't willing to pick it up?

If anything, it'd free up the labels to do their own advertising, play their OWN shows without being inhibited from it, sell their music HOWEVER the hell they want... if the labels are willing to do some extra legwork, they could survive the fall of SEB just fine. Not easily, it wouldn't be fun; but I'm sure if they did all the things they needed (and now can do without Avex's hindrances), they'd do okay.

QFT : QUOTE OF THE YEAR.

Let's say:

Avex Sux

DarkSky wrote:Let's say:

Avex Sux

QFT : QUOTE OF THE DECADE.

I don't understand why I've ever done the following:

So the tracklist...

01. BURNING LIKE FIRE / DAVE RODGERS feat. ALEX DE ROSSO [A-Beat C]
02. ULTRA MI-HA DELUXE / PROJECT 2 [Go Go's Music]
03. KING OF THE WORLD / DAVID DIMA [Dima]
04. STOP CITY LOVER / DERRECK SIMONS [A-Beat C]
05. HURRICANE MAN / GOLD-RAKE [Eurogrooves]
06. SAVE ANOTHER DAY FOR ME / DE LEO [Time]
07. DON'T BELONG / MARI-SAN [Go Go's Music]
08. ROCK YOU / MAD MAX [Delta]
09. MONSTERS READY / FASTWAY [SCP]
10. I WILL SURVIVE / MEGAN [SinclaireStyle]
11. SHINE / MISTER MAX [Asia]
12. KOOKY SPOOKY / SCREAM TEAM [SCP]
13. WILD BOY BAD LOVE / JOE BANANA [Hi-NRG Attack]

That gives us:

A-Beat C x2
Go Go's Music x2
Dima x1
Eurogrooves x1
Time x1
Delta x1
SCP x2
SinclaireStyle x1
Asia x1
Hi-NRG Attack x1

I believe this is the first time all 10 listed labels on the back cover have been featured on the same album!

DJ Mike TJG wrote:So the tracklist...

01. BURNING LIKE FIRE / DAVE RODGERS feat. ALEX DE ROSSO [A-Beat C]
02. ULTRA MI-HA DELUXE / PROJECT 2 [Go Go's Music]
03. KING OF THE WORLD / DAVID DIMA [Dima]
04. STOP CITY LOVER / DERRECK SIMONS [A-Beat C]
05. HURRICANE MAN / GOLD-RAKE [Eurogrooves]
06. SAVE ANOTHER DAY FOR ME / DE LEO [Time]
07. DON'T BELONG / MARI-SAN [Go Go's Music]
08. ROCK YOU / MAD MAX [Delta]
09. MONSTERS READY / FASTWAY [SCP]
10. I WILL SURVIVE / MEGAN [SinclaireStyle]
11. SHINE / MISTER MAX [Asia]
12. KOOKY SPOOKY / SCREAM TEAM [SCP]
13. WILD BOY BAD LOVE / JOE BANANA [Hi-NRG Attack]

That gives us:

A-Beat C x2
Go Go's Music x2
Dima x1
Eurogrooves x1
Time x1
Delta x1
SCP x2
SinclaireStyle x1
Asia x1
Hi-NRG Attack x1

I believe this is the first time all 10 listed labels on the back cover have been featured on the same album!

Mm. Points to Avex for spreading things out mostly evenly.

SCP's entries sound more prepared for Halloween than anything else... Monsters Ready? Kooky Spooky?
Again, Sinclaire had BETTER come through. None of this silly, fairy bullcrap.
YESSSSS DAVE RODGERS! AND Derrek Simons!
Mari-san from GGM makes zoup a sad panda.
Looks like the 1X5 chain of awesome will not be broken, if things turn out well!