Label Status as of the Super Eurobeat 18X's

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Post by cheeseman » 01 Oct 2007, 22:05

zoupzuop2 wrote:WHOOOAAAA hold it. Are you saying that Claudio Accatino is gone???
I guess drnrg meant Claudio Magnani rather than Claudio Accatino :D

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Post by drnrg » 02 Oct 2007, 00:50

cheeseman
I guess drnrg meant Claudio Magnani rather than Claudio Accatino
That's exactly what I meant.



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In regards to Tam Arrow, I can answer that: I'm not sure he's GONE, persay, but he HAS been busy... as Maximum Power, on Akyr.
I know that :P It's just that Akyr style and DELTA sound so different to me. [/quote]


What's funny is that you guys didn't catch the real mistake I did when writing Rick Astly- Iron Man, instead of Marc Astly. :D

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Post by #Infinity » 02 Oct 2007, 02:07

According to HRG's catalogue, Claudio Magnani hasn't recored anything at Live Music Studio since Dance Around The World by P. Stone (HRG 549), which was made over 3 years ago, so yeah, I think he's truly retired from Hi-NRG Attack. Just because he's at Akyr now doesn't mean he wouldn't have time to work for 2 labels at once. He did so when he actually was with Hi-NRG Attack (as well as Delta).

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Post by drnrg » 02 Oct 2007, 08:27

Some artists like Clara Moroni and Gino Caria sang on 3 different labels during a span of TIME

FLEA,TIME and Saifam, High Energy label.Gino even at ABeatC as well as Corraini. I notice the vocalist now a days don't do this very often as they did back in the Old Skool days. Could it be to avoid confusion :???:

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Post by para_rigby » 11 Feb 2008, 19:46

BUMP...I'm using this thread for the labels in the 181-184 era.

DELTA: Definitely more aggressive since the lackluster 150s and early 160s. I've throughly enjoyed the speedy non-ballad sounds from Cherry. SET ME FREE and YES I WILL have been some of the best Cherry songs since SHA LA LA and MY LOVERBOY. Makes me wonder how DELTA and SINCLAIRESTYLE are going to duke it out on 186! I also have loved the new artists on board DELTA this decade like JIMMY DIAMOND & PAUL DICKENSON.

A-BEAT C: I'm really half and half on this label. I must mention the lack of any interesting intros so far in the 180s from this label. As some others have mentioned, much of A-BEAT C since 169 hasn't really grabbed my attention. While it's great that A. GORDON is back, her vocals don't pack a punch like they did pre-SEB 60. The sparse appearances of Karen, Lolita, and Mickey B have saddened me (especially Lolita's discography since 169). Seems like Dave is relying too much on MEGA NRG MAN, NUAGE, KELLY T, A. GORDON to move the label along. I would like to hear the sounds of DE LA VEGA, MAX ALTO, WAIN L, and MICKEY B again!

SCP: I'm a total fanboy of the SCP sound, but some of the recent entries have somewhat disappointed. PAMSY, I fear, is going to head in the direction of the NUAGE/ANNALISE SYNDROME. By that, I mean, we're going to get tracks pumped out by her on every other SEB album. It has been nice to hear from PAMSY, but I don't want her vocals to lose their charm. Talk about your overload of FASTWAY in the last 15-20 albums, huh? I would like to hear some new ACE, VIVI, KIKI & FANCY, and LISA LION! Not bad at all, SCP, but let's vary the artist entries around for a bit now.

TIME: The biggest gem for me is ANNIE on 184. She's one of the most underappreciated artists in the Eurobeat world. ANNIE has an endearing voice, and it seems that TIME's producers have crafted exceptional tracks for her each and every time. I would like to keep hearing vocals and melodies that brought TIME into the limelight with me in the latter half of the 170s like Erika, Energy Man, and Jock Lee.

HI-NRG ATTACK: Like A-BEAT C, I have a love hate relationship with this label. Some of my favorite tracks from the past couple of years have been MAID ATTACK, HANNIBAL THE CANNIBAL, PUN PUN BEAM, and BAZOOKAAA. I have yet to hear such epic tracks from this label like the said tracks before except for YOU KISS MY LOVER. I do enjoy the return of the EUROBEAT FLASH sound.

GO GO MUSIC: This label has blown A-BEAT C out of the water in the 180s with NEVER GONNA GIVE UP and GAS GAS GAS! GGM's sound reminds me of the wonderful sounds from SEB 100-129 from A-BEAT C. Great vocals, soundscapes, and just plain damn catchy. I think GGM has risen above its parent label for the fact that the great producers of this label left the first one. They seem to have a careful, but creative touch to their tracks this past year.

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Post by #Infinity » 11 Feb 2008, 21:37

A-BEAT C: Steadily improving, producing nice songs every once in a while, but they still just can't compete with the other labels. At least one song per album so far has stood out, but most of their material is still filler. Powerful T. isn't working at a particularly fast pace so far, but Annalise is becoming overexposed to death when I haven't really been impressed by anything she's done since the start of the decade. Hopefully Avex will cut down their # of tracks with the inclusion of SinclaireStyle and Asia to leave out the filler and instead focus on the highlights.

TOP 3 TRACKS:
1. SAVE YOUR VOICE TO SING A SONG / BRIAN ICE
2. GUNFIRE / MATT LAND
3. DEMON / ACE WARRIOR


TIME: They've been improving so much lately, but I don't think they use their potential to the fullest. I wouldn't mind 4 tracks per album, but they leave too much space to filler tracks and unnecessary covers. The best songs so far are easily the ones performed by artists who don't get exposed very much. The label has excellent production methods; they just need to execute their variety to the fullest. I'm still waiting for another dose of 179-quality material from them.

TOP 3 TRACKS:
1. NIGHT FIGHTER / JACKY 'O
2. NO BORDERS / ANNIE
3. ON FIRE 2007 / SUSY TIME


The rest of the labels will be reviewed once I have more time.

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Post by drnrg » 12 Feb 2008, 00:43

I think I'll hold back for 185. That way I can base it on the first 5 cds. 8)

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Post by #Infinity » 12 Feb 2008, 21:38

Short continuation from where I left off...

DELTA: With Bratt Sinclaire off the team, I think it's really quite safe to say that Newfield has done everything in his power to revive Delta completely back from the dead, as they're by far the top-performing Super Eurobeat label these days. The introduction of new performers such as Daniel, Jimmy Diamond, and Paul Dickenson are more than welcome, and the producer lineup is solid and diverse. Their production methods are always top-notch and fresh, drawing excellent influences to Saifam without losing everything right about their personality in the first place. The released songs are consistently excellent and powerful, so overall I think they deserve as much credit as possible and should definitely keep this excellent pace up.

TOP 3 TRACKS:
1. Yes I Will / Cherry
2. Burning Up The Night (Total Fire) / 2 Fast
3. Full Metal Cars / Daniel

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Post by #Infinity » 14 Feb 2008, 17:59

SCP: Still solid as ever, but not quite as top-notch as they were earlier on. Some of their newer performances are classics in my mind, but others are just good, lacking the spirit of previous performances. Pamsy hasn't really impressed me too much lately, Fastway's tracks are kind of generic, and I felt that NRG could've been a lot better with a stronger chorus, despite its aggressive prominence. As a whole, the label is solid, but they're not at their best at the moment.

TOP 3 TRACKS:
1. Blood On Fire / Go 2 & Christine
2. Burn Into The Beat / Nick Mansell
3. Speed Of Light / The Snake


Hi-NRG Attack: Lack of variety would probably be the biggest gripe I have right now for this label. For a moment, I thought their productions were fiestier and stronger than ever before, but during the 180's they haven't really put forth their potential to its fullest. Avex tends to release Rimonti tracks a lot more frequently than Festari ones, and without Claudio Magnani to back up the male lineup, Federico's slowly been losing steam and creativity in his performances. Assuming that "Alice" is no longer working for the label (as she hasn't recorded anything since Get A Boom), Monica is the only female left aside from the seldom-performing Greta Accantino, and while I enjoy her vocal similarities to Melody Castellari, the fact that she's massively pitched up 95% doesn't present her talent to its fullest. This label still has what it takes, but I think it's seriously time to pick up a few new artists.

TOP 3 TRACKS:
1. Superfast Tokyo Drift / Jeff Driller
2. Crazy Race On The Street / Garcon
3. Happy Snappy Valentine / Nikita Jr.


GGM: There's nothing bad about this label at all really. They're basically everything A-Beat C used to be before Sandro Olivia and Alessandra Gatti departed from them. It seems like they don't release bad songs, constantly pushing out some the best and most inspired eurobeat out there. The problem I have is only with Avex; they don't give them enough attention at all. 1 track doesn't really help me familiarize myself with the label even A-Beat C is generally hogging up almost a third of the CD. They were even completely left out on Super Eurobeat 182. If Avex would stop treating this label similarly to how they treated Vibration, they wouldn't be so underexposed as they are right now.

TOP TRACK:
- Gas Gas Gas / Manuel

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Post by wolftickets1969 » 15 Feb 2008, 02:53

#Infinity wrote: Assuming that "Alice" is no longer working for the label (as she hasn't recorded anything since Get A Boom)
You might be wrong. Here's a few unreleased HRG songs produced since then that might have done by her(according to the alias names):
HRG 683 - Lou Lou Marina - Formula One
HRG 692 - Dee Dee Wonder - When The Children Say Now
HRG 706 - Mika La-Do(she apparently used this alias in "I Am Your Barracuda") - Walkie Talkie Doki Doki
HRG 715 - Lilly - Hit me

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Post by wolftickets1969 » 15 Feb 2008, 03:02

I wonder who did Louise - You Kiss My lover. Is this a normal-pitched Monica, or a totally new singer? This one's so new it's not even in HRG's catalog(of course their site isn't really up to date).

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Post by taQ » 15 Feb 2008, 04:58

the thing is with hrg, the female vocalist is rarely consistant with the artist name. they use whichever female is singing for them at the time for all the tracks, although it seems that sometimes theres more than one at a time. the artists on their site are a pretty poor representation of the actual singers.

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Post by #Infinity » 15 Feb 2008, 05:30

I think Alice would've probably sung Happy Snappy Valentine if she were still present because she tended to sing the "cheesier" side of HRG's female productions, but they gave it to Monica instead.

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Post by Jay » 15 Feb 2008, 09:27

Currently, this is what I feel about the first four albums percentage-wise. The percentages in gray were what I thought about the labels during the 170s.

01. SCP - 83% (43%)
02. Delta - 75% (67%)
03. TIME - 73% (56%)
04. Go Go's Music - 66% (100%)
05. A-Beat C - 50% (52%)
05. Hi-NRG Attack - 50% (55%)

SCP: The incontestable star of the decade so far. There were only two productions I didn't really enjoy from this label (Irene - "Love is the Name of Love"), and the other one being a 'borderline' track (The Snake - "Speed Of Light") that screamed generic. Overall, the production values from SCP are impressive. I have a few doubts about them maintaining the level though.

Delta: Nothing out of the ordinary from Delta. They've kept a steady level that is flowing well from the 170s.

Time: Despite my complaints about their rehashes and remakes, they've been performing remarkably well. I've yet to hear an abhorrent performance from Dall'Ora during the 180s, but that doesn't detract from the view that they're starting to become timeworn with their dwindling creativity. Perhaps the possible introduction of Saifam and SinclaireStyle will help Dall'Ora's imagination out a bit if they end up being docked a song. Only time will tell.

Go Go's Music: They're a sub-label, but I feel it's wrong to mix them up with A-Beat C since each of their productions share distinct characteristics. They've only released three songs in the 180s, but I don't feel at home with any of their productions yet. Despite this, there was only one production from GGM I felt was substandard and that was the drowsy "Goodnight Kiss". I'll reserve my other comments and complaints about this label until I've heard what else they have on offer.

A-Beat C: [Rant Time] Does Pasquini get bored of vocalists he consistently works with? I personally don't feel it's just me "getting sick" of the same vocalists showing up, but maybe Pasquini feels the same way and hence contributes to part of the issue. If you look at Pasquini's ASCAP profile and notice how Mega NRG Man inundates 1/3 of that list, we have a major issue. No wonder Avex has little choice when selecting which A-Beat C songs to place on the next SEB.

The repetition of vocalists really hurts A-Beat C. They have such a large repository of vocalists to choose from, yet they, for whatever reason, concentrate on two main ones for an extended period of time. The main problem is that they have no spread at all with vocalists. It always feels like two Gordon tracks, one Marin track, one Nuage track and one random A-Beat C vocalist showing up on every single disc. They need to be docked a song or two when the new labels come around in 186.

Hi-NRG Attack: Aww. HRG was performing so well during the 170s...now they've lost it once again. They're following the same path SCP went down during the 170s: either they pull out an awesome production that will be remembered for years to come, or they'll pull out the generic or tasteless tracks that very few people will care about. A flip of the coin, really.

Overall, I was quite pleased. No label has been performing below average, and at least half of the time I can predict that any label will pull out a track that I'll be listening to again in the future.

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