Eurobeat Prime :: Forum

pokecapn wrote:DarkSky: Tell me with a straight face that the Dancemania Series died due to piracy and not because everyone, including the artists, lost interest in eurodance.

I think that's also something which has a role in this...
I think it's a combination of both what decreases the interest in (buying) eurobeat.

drnrg wrote:I hate when memebers try to say they have never in thier life pirated a cd by trying to uprise an antipiracy cause.

here is my deal, If something isn't printed anymore like vinyls or certain That's Eurobeat series or such, then pirating is the only way to get them sometimes. Then you gotta do what you gotta do

Yep, ofcourse I can't deny that because then I would lie. But I didn't say I have never pirated a CD in my life
Indeed, in the past I was a sharer of music.
But I did all I can when Federico Rimonti asked me to remove all my links and videos containing Eurobeat. I did remove everything I could find.
On any website. That was 2 years ago. In 2007. But now it's 2009, and I made a new start.

And indeed I think you deal looks good, but there is still a way to get them used from eBay or Discogs. And yeah, pirating is the only way to get them. But I think you should try everything you can first (contacting eurobeat friends in Japan, looking @ auction websites, cdjapan..) before pirating the music. But then still.. it's a bad thing. But it isn't as worse as sharing the new SEBs And if these CDs are out-of-print no royalties are paid to the producers I think.

But people should decide by themselves what they do, I decided to stop pirating.. because it felt insecure and Rimonti asked me on a nice way to stop. So that's what I did. No more pirating for me.

Ok, enough about me. Now please talk about what's happening on IDForums. What's going to happen on there?

DarkSky

Ok, enough about me. Now please talk about what's happening on IDForums. What's going to happen on there?

I couldn't care less what happens there. How's that?

DarkSky wrote: Ok, enough about me. Now please talk about what's happening on IDForums. What's going to happen on there?

Absolutely N-O-T-H-I-N-G.
It's been days now - Newfield hasn't posted and Perry hasn't informed me of any trouble.
From the very begining I've been saying that all Newfield wanted was for people to stop posting Eurobeat Masters. Stop wishing death upon the site man.
Like you'll be welcome after that though... :-"

DarkSky

Yep, ofcourse I can't deny that because then I would lie. But I didn't say I have never pirated a CD in my life
Indeed, in the past I was a sharer of music.
But I did all I can when Federico Rimonti asked me to remove all my links and videos containing Eurobeat. I did remove everything I could find.
On any website. That was 2 years ago. In 2007. But now it's 2009, and I made a new start.

here is my question. You don't even like HRG Attack. I quote as baest as I can remeber."I usually just skip thier tracks" So how are you in good standing with Mr. Rimonti' Hmmm...

drnrg wrote:DarkSky

Yep, ofcourse I can't deny that because then I would lie. But I didn't say I have never pirated a CD in my life
Indeed, in the past I was a sharer of music.
But I did all I can when Federico Rimonti asked me to remove all my links and videos containing Eurobeat. I did remove everything I could find.
On any website. That was 2 years ago. In 2007. But now it's 2009, and I made a new start.

here is my question. You don't even like HRG Attack. I quote as baest as I can remeber."I usually just skip thier tracks" So how are you in good standing with Mr. Rimonti' Hmmm...

Yep you're right, I don't like Hi-NRG Attack but that doesn't mean I don't have any respect for the producers, writers and artists who make these songs...,, I don't dislike them.

They're good people, it's just the music I don't like.
And everybody has their own tastes, I prefer the SCP, GoGo's, Dima style Not the SAIFAM and HRG style.

I find myself liking a label more via eras and I find most people do too. For example, HRG during mid to late Eurobeat Flash and early to mid Euromach was great, Time Records/Eurogrooves was also strong from early SEB to about the 130s. Around that time, that's when a lot of their productions took a nose dive in quality at least to me. SCP for me when they first started wasn't too strong at all. Late Maharaja productions sounded like rehashed Vibration (Gino era and yes I do realize Castagna, Evelina, Nick Mansell were in Vibration before they formed a team in Double/SCP) but with stuff like Number One, Jam Jam Jam and others, their quality went up. When they were put on SEB they only grew in my eyes because of how different yet similar their style is to not only their old productions but also taking ideas from pop and trance songs. A-Beat C was awesome from early SEB to about 175 before taking a nosedive, Saifam was strong, did really well in the 160's, slipped a little in the 180s to now but they're still good, Go Go's is great (so far), Delta is weird because it existed as two separate producers with different styles until the late 160s with more producers added to the roster so, I think Newfield is talented but I wish he would go back to a semi slower style and using the style of songs like You Can Light My Fire and Crazy For You, do more Mad Max songs and bring in more male performances. Capaldi is like trance music mixed with a Sinclaire style mixed with Newfield which makes for interesting pieces. However he needs to stop using the same song structures for every song. Cipro & Sandrini are awesome and underutilized, Arduini (see Cipro & Sandrini as well as the criticism of Capaldi. Rain/Rebel Yell anyone?), Sinclaire (yes I know he has Sinclaire style now but he was part of Delta) was awesome and I enjoyed his songs but I didn't like the airyness he employed in late Delta early Sinclaire style. He seems to be easing back on that airyness though.

In the end I think that everyone can pick out a period from their favorite producers which they didn't like and vice versa. I think if more people started looking at the music in this way, and saying "well I don't enjoy how they're producing and writing songs at this moment" instead of "that producer sucks (end sentence), things would go slightly more smoothly.

I have to dispute that very early SCP was no good. Out of the 3 MN songs they had:

Christine / Story Of My Life
Nick Mansell / Runaway

Are two of my favourite (and indeed, particularly in the case of Runaway, some excellent work in general).

In general, SCP have only slipped for me on one-off occasions, rather than ever being in a seemingly-interminable dip.