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As for Bastard Man, I've given it a miss to be honest. It sounds decent, but there's just something about the title that puts me off...

For all the "aggressiveness" that a few people are talking about KOTW/BM, I still don't hear what is so aggressive about it though.

drnrg wrote:WNight

For all the "aggressiveness" that a few people are talking about KOTW/BM, I still don't hear what is so aggressive about it though.

Hmmm. How is it not:???:
I'm kinda confused what you might concider Agressive Eurobeat after reading your comment. I take it its safe to say that an x Powerful T or Dave Rodgers song is along the lines of Agressive for you, right? The loud guitars, fast synths, somewhat screamy and or raspy vocals. How is Bastard Man not fitting in that catagory. The line "Bastard Man burn into the fire" is alone, what I concider "Agressive" Eurobeat.

For me, I take it another step further when concidering a song aggressive. I'll take, for instance a song like "Freedom" also bt David Dima. Sure it's upbeat and faster than his Aishu style, but I still wouldn't concider iT Agreessive

I'll compare two Dave Rodgers songs too. The Race Is A Game Fast and Powerful, but not Aggresive. "Fire Dragon on the other hand; mmmm, now that's the kind of Agreesive that makes my mouth water.

a few more examples.

Eurogrooves.
A Perfect Hero= Aggresive
WOnder Lover = non agreesive

HRG Attack
MadCow= Aggressive
On The Top Again= non agressive

DELTA
Go Shinkansen! = Agreesive
I Need A Revolution= non Agressive

SCP
Love Countdown= Agressive
777= non agressive

BTW, A song doesn't have to be all that fast to be concidered agreesive. I concider most of Gino Caria's songs from the 90s pretty agressive for vocals alone.

At least this is how it works for me.

I can't exactly explain in detail what I consider aggressive. To give you an idea of what I kinda consider aggressive, let's use your method and perhaps, you can see something from there. These are just some of the examples though, not all.

Eurogrooves/Time : Hurricane Man/Speedman/Heartbreaker 2007/Ready Forever
SCP : Hardly any, but Go 2/Fastway songs fits the criteria closest, maybe Legendary Heart too.
Dima : Stormbringer (This is what I consider Dima's most aggro song but it's really not much to be honest)
Asia : Like A Fire
Sun Fire/A-Beat-C : Louder & Faster/No Religion/Most of Mega NRG Man's songs
Delta : Rebel Yell/Frontal Impact/Right Now
SS : None.
Hi-NRG Attack : Bomba

Fire Dragon and The Race Is The Game are hardly aggressive, to me at least, in fact, all of the DR songs aren't anywhere near what I consider to be aggressive. To a certain extent, you're right about the fast synth or loud guitars but there are many instances where by this isn't true as well. Bastard Man and KOTW just doesn't cut it in the aggressive department for me, no explicit explanation there. Whether a song is aggressive or not doesn't affect how good a song is though, although I do like that kind of style the most.

BTW, never heard many of Gino Caria's songs so can't comment on that.

drnrg wrote:WNight

I can't exactly explain in detail what I consider aggressive. To give you an idea of what I kinda consider aggressive, let's use your method and perhaps, you can see something from there. These are just some of the examples though, not all.

Eurogrooves/Time : Hurricane Man/Speedman/Heartbreaker 2007/Ready Forever
SCP : Hardly any, but Go 2/Fastway songs fits the criteria closest, maybe Legendary Heart too.
Dima : Stormbringer (This is what I consider Dima's most aggro song but it's really not much to be honest)
Asia : Like A Fire
Sun Fire/A-Beat-C : Louder & Faster/No Religion/Most of Mega NRG Man's songs
Delta : Rebel Yell/Frontal Impact/Right Now
SS : None.
Hi-NRG Attack : Bomba

Fire Dragon and The Race Is The Game are hardly aggressive, to me at least, in fact, all of the DR songs aren't anywhere near what I consider to be aggressive. To a certain extent, you're right about the fast synth or loud guitars but there are many instances where by this isn't true as well. Bastard Man and KOTW just doesn't cut it in the aggressive department for me, no explicit explanation there. Whether a song is aggressive or not doesn't affect how good a song is though, although I do like that kind of style the most.

BTW, never heard many of Gino Caria's songs so can't comment on that.

We are more or less on the same page. Especially with Eurogrooves and you are right about Storm Bringer.

Dave Rodgers vocals are not neccesarly what I concider Agreesive. especially after being introduced to his vocal style in the Italo years. For me Fire Dragon has a lot to do with the whole production. The Percussion and constant Fire Fire shouting in the intro. Now that you mention it ,Dave is blurry in the Agreesion departmnet. His Version of Disco Fire is fast enuff, but even then I wouldn't stamp it as aggressive. have you heard Black Jack Fever by RCS(Rodgers, Contini, Sinclaire). The musical structure of that song is basically aggressive and he uses a shouty style of singing. I don't know....

At least we agree that almost everything he touches turns to gold.

drnrg wrote:have you heard Black Jack Fever by RCS(Rodgers, Contini, Sinclaire). The musical structure of that song is basically aggressive and he uses a shouty style of singing. I don't know....

DarkSky wrote:You do not necessarily need a iTunes JP card, the tracks are available in several stores on the web + in every iTunes shop.