We all know That Eurobeat uses the same outline to make thier music, but Eurobeat found a formula that works TIME & TIME again and no matter how many songs are released, there is always something new and different about the songs. besides if they "Borrow", they are pretty much "Borrowing from within thier music genres of Disco, Hi Energy and Italo. Eurobeat does not go "Borrowing melodies from Timbaland, Black Eyed Peas ect....
Another point is that Eurobeat always sounds fresh. Maybe, it's the fact that they include the synth and intros that give it an original and fresh approach as opposed to Dance Pop, which now adays is sounding all the same. Most of those rappers have the same tone and the reason I detest most of them, is because they are just jumping on the hit making band wagon and going as far as to say that they are comming up with fresh and original melodies for Dance Music and that it has never been as popular as it is now. If dance music suddenly went crashing down and pop interest became hard core rapp; how many wanna bet that those same Pitbulls, Chris Brown and Ushers are gonna jump on the wagon?
Now I'll rant for a while, since I feel stronly about this discussion and a open forum has fallen my way.
Most of you should recall that About 15 years back Dance Music was frowned upon by the music industry. Disco was pretty much killed off by the same industry. Records were burned all over the country in the late 70's and it became an underworld genre, Now all of the sudden; out of the blue, the whole top 40 has become Dance Pop Chart and my whole beef is that these 15 minuite fame artists like Pitbull, Florida, Chris Brown are getting famouse of the scraps left over by 80s Hi Energy and Maimi Freestyle. My message to them is to come up with thier own melodies and stop acting like if they were the ones who discovered these Italo, 80's Hi Energy ; what ever you guys wanna call it , melodies.
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This is a good point. I didn't bring it up or hardly ever touch upon Diana Ross, Bee Gees,Village People ect... because I view the 70's Disco sound as entirely different genre to Italo Disco. The atmosphere of Italo was on the melonacholic side with darker synths and vocals. Same with 80's New Wave. Disco was always uptempo and all about having fun. Disco in itsself didn't even have a true Synth Riff. About the only remsenblence between Disco and Italo/Eurobeat is the use of percussion, basslines and guitars.Good point that you didn't just say Eurobeat. But Italo Disco is preceded by Disco (itself not entirely an electronic genre), itself preceded by Motown... a wholly American endeavor, by coincidence.
And, as someone who has studied American Contemporary Music since the institution of slavery, I can affirm that dance music owes more to Soul and R&B (and, later, general Disco) than Italo Disco alone. Additionally, Italy wasn't the only nation producing Disco (Italo Disco itself is more descendant of Eurodisco and PWL/SAW productions, which were not inherently Italian so much as European in general). Modern Pop owes as much to Italo Disco as it does to Funk, Soul, R&B, and even older Rock 'N Roll; yes, it's a contributor, but it would be a stretch to suggest that Italo was the main contributor.
You could however compare 70's Disco to the dance Pop of nowadays in many ways. Just the fact that most of those groups were born for the sheer reason of jumping on the Disco Band Wagon and milking the genre dry before it died would be the best comparison to Flo-Rida, Ke$ha ect... Bee Gees and Dina Ross were around long before Disco. They are real musicians, but bands like Village People fizzled out after Disco died, proving that they were nothing more than A gimmick. I'll go as far to compare them with LMFAO; who themsleves have admitted that they are all just about the party. In other words, jumping on the hit making wagon and emptying out youngsters pockets, before they ; themsleves, will also, fizzle out.
For me Motown derievss more from the 60's rock sound. It was just a way for the Afro Americans to have the R&B and Soul ingredients added to music so that they could call it thier own brand of Rock n Roll. The reason I say this because, back in the 60's, there was no Dance genre. They were appealing to a Rock n Roll crowd. yes, the Motown sound is American, but for me a genre pretty far from Dance. I would say motown contributed more the 80's & 90's style of Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Boys To Men ect..I love 80s funk; which did born from R&B, but hardly any of those 80's acts; Especially; Prince would call his music dance. That is why Michael Jackson was called the King Of POP and not King Of Dance. So ,I try to exclude This R&B music style when I discuss Dance Music, but I can Clearly see your point and how many would slot R&B onto the dance genre. Furthermore; I can pinpoint R&B melos in Pitbull and Chris Brown songs, but I think they mainly do it to pay homage to thier heritage, but I do listen how they shamelessly "borrow" many Italo melodies and to tell you the truth it just sounds wrong.
I know music is constantly changing and some say "progressing", but seriously, I think the music industry has just gotten lazy and just making music for the sheer pleasure of milking the public dry.
Just try for a second to imagine today's dance pop music going up agains the likes of Michael jackson, or Prince, or groups like Cobra Starship and The Wanted agianst The Cars or Duran Duran. many have compared Katy Perry's album of 6 number ones to Micheal jackson's "Thriller", but seriously ... Katy Perry compared to Micheal Jackson? I wouldn't even slot her above Lionell Ritchie. Today's Pop and dance pop would just sound so simple and unoriginal next to those classics. I'm sorry but, IMPO, I believe Pop and Dance has; in fact, regressed and all those record companies are just LMFAO at us. Rebacca Black with her viral "Friday" disillusioned a lot of Pop fans and pretty much turned our stomachs when we realized how effortless it is to create a song done in this day's pop style. Every decade has these shameless music acts like Vanilla Ice, M.C. Hammer; who just reliy on other peoples melos to make music. This to me isn't making music. This to me is copyright.
I'm not saying all pop is bad. I do see a light et the tunnel when I see groups like Gotye, Fun, Neon Trees, Grouplove actually pushing thier way into the top 10. This is Pop that I love. and you could actually call me a fan of American Pop. the only difference is that I follow the American Adult Rock charts, which is full of those artists I mentioned above, as opposed to the Pop charts where those artists only make slight chart appearences. Some of those groups are even American, the difference is they are not relying on some past rock song's melodies to compose thier music. They are comming up with original ideas.
Done ranting for now
