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Post by para_rigby » 20 Sep 2014, 10:23

According to parapara news on Facebook, Get Yaself The Real Thang is finally getting released on this album!

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Post by Lebon14 » 20 Sep 2014, 12:49

para_rigby wrote:According to parapara news on Facebook, Get Yaself The Real Thang is finally getting released on this album!
ALL THE FUCKING YES.
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Post by WNight » 20 Sep 2014, 13:09

para_rigby wrote:According to parapara news on Facebook, Get Yaself The Real Thang is finally getting released on this album!
The track sounds awesome, though I'd honestly consider that song too 'old' to be on a 'new' SEB by now.

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Post by para_rigby » 20 Sep 2014, 14:17

You'd be surprise that back in the day, Avex would release tracks that were at least two or three years old. I believe that Money Funny Dollars was created three years prior to its release on SEB. So this isn't too far off.

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Post by Javy » 20 Sep 2014, 18:20

Niko Kickboxing was 200o and released in 2009, Baby face was 2003 but released in the 170s, 10,000 Loverswas Sinclaire at abeatc in 93 but got released on 201 so a year wait isn't so bad.
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Post by drnrg » 22 Sep 2014, 05:25

Manga Super Robot from HRG Attack got its cd release ways after it first appeared on their catalog.

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Post by WNight » 22 Sep 2014, 10:42

para_rigby wrote:You'd be surprise that back in the day, Avex would release tracks that were at least two or three years old. I believe that Money Funny Dollars was created three years prior to its release on SEB. So this isn't too far off.
Yeah I know that. My post wasn't meant to be a pointer towards outright rejecting any 'old' tracks on new SEB (they have a place, and majority of the ones featured so far have been decent at least) but rather, giving highest priority to songs that are 'fresh out of the oven'. There could be a myriad of reasons why songs from the back catalog are featured, and honestly, it's near impossible to tell the 'fresh' ones from the 'leftovers' without a proper catalog like what 'Hi-NRG Attack' does. 'GYTRT' would have easily passed as a 2014 track if they didn't made it known that the track was made in 2012 but I hope people get my point.

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Post by Mindsweeper » 22 Sep 2014, 20:52

If there's no noticeable difference between "fresh" and "leftover" tracks, why bother giving priority to the new ones?

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Post by para_rigby » 23 Sep 2014, 01:19

I think the only time the leftover track was noticeable was Mirka's "10,000 Lovers" since it was from way back in the early 90s. Not a bad song, but just felt out of place. I was rather surprised to find out that tracks would be finally released 2+ years after their creation. Makes me wonder the thought process in how Avex picks what gets put on a new album...

P.S. I would have too much fun deciding what tracks to put on a SEB album. Just think of the trove of unreleased stuff just waiting to be released!

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Post by WNight » 23 Sep 2014, 03:06

Mindsweeper wrote:If there's no noticeable difference between "fresh" and "leftover" tracks, why bother giving priority to the new ones?
The same could be said about giving 'old' tracks priority.

I'd say that for the labels who gives a shit about connecting with the fans or have a product code on their tracks (Saifam, SCP and Hi-NRG Attack comes to mind), giving priority to 'fresh' tracks is a given. 'GYTRT' was a track that was teased back in 2012, together with 'Hyper Super Powers', and the latter got on 221 which was almost 2 years ago so unless there are some 'mastering problems' whatsoever, I personally do not think that songs like 'Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Tonight', 'Maybe One Day' or the platinum versions of Sinclaire's old tracks (these tracks are flat out obvious 'oldies') have a reason to get featured before it. I would be extremely bummed as well if let's say I saw Manuel teasing 'Tiger' in 2014, only for it to be released in 2016, the thought process is usually 'What in the world took so long for that song for that track to be featured'?

For the rest, I guess it's more of a 'blind trust' in Avex since they're the boss. Like you said, most of the time there's no noticeable difference but I doubt anyone would agree on future SEBs having a full album of the old Time/Eurogrooves/A-Beat-C or the platinum Sinclaire tracks. The point here would be 'as 'new' as possible'. It also gives an 'assurance' that labels are still producing, if it makes sense to anyone.

At the end of the day, my point is that you can still enjoy ANY track you want on SEB be it old or new (I personally enjoyed 'Crazy Love' even if it sounds pretty f-king outdated) but maybe it's just me but I'd see no sense in say for example putting 2 A-Beat-C + 2 Sun Fire if the latter produced enough 'passable' tracks for all 4 slots and pushing the other 2 back.

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Post by drnrg » 23 Sep 2014, 04:30

Sinclaire did it a few TIMEs already with Dejo and Bon tracks. Gave them a new sound , but kept the same artist names. Casanova and Mako.


As for TIME/Eurogrooves. Seeing there are easily about 50= unreleased unheard songs from those catalogs. I wouldn't mind AVEX throwing me a bone once in a while. instead of this ;not needed hiatus, let's put out SEB swith unreleased tracks. :D

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Post by Mindsweeper » 23 Sep 2014, 09:26

WNight wrote: I doubt anyone would agree on future SEBs having a full album of the old Time/Eurogrooves/A-Beat-C or the platinum Sinclaire tracks.
No way, I'd be all over a full comp of only super old unreleased tracks! I think there are plenty of fans of the older eurobeat sound who'd be all over that too.

I dunno if I'd even count those "platinum" versions though, seeing as they're probably remakes. I wish I could hear what the originals sounded like.

Though I'll admit hearing obviously old stuff on new SEBs would be weird for a lot of people. I think it'd be cool if avex put out a digital unreleased special collection on itunes or something so that the main SEB series doesn't have to lose the 'fresh' factor or whatever. :P

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Post by #Infinity » 23 Sep 2014, 16:49

Older songs appearing on newer albums isn't an unusual thing for the SEB series at all. It's been that way for several years. In certain cases, it's almost standard, like with Delta and HRG in the 160's, Vibration in the 140's and 150's, SCP in the 200's, and A-Beat C in the 210's-220's.

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Post by Tiger » 23 Sep 2014, 17:39

Mindsweeper wrote:
I dunno if I'd even count those "platinum" versions though, seeing as they're probably remakes. I wish I could hear what the originals sounded like.
Bratt put the original for Crazy Love on an Internet radio site. I was able to download the MP3 from the website. Some other unreleased stuff on there too, mainly Clara vocals.

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Post by synthjunkie » 25 Sep 2014, 23:00

Tiger wrote:
Mindsweeper wrote:
I dunno if I'd even count those "platinum" versions though, seeing as they're probably remakes. I wish I could hear what the originals sounded like.
Bratt put the original for Crazy Love on an Internet radio site. I was able to download the MP3 from the website. Some other unreleased stuff on there too, mainly Clara vocals.
The original version of Casanova's "Crazy Love" has a slightly different sound in one of the instruments in the riff, also the beat drum in the backround is not as hard as the "platinum" version. Hard to say which version I like better. They are very similar. I usually like the original versions of songs, but in this case the "Platinum Version" might be SLIGHTLY better just because of the stonger base.

The other unreleased SinclaireStyle song that caught my attention was the song "Sent by Heaven" by "Pretty Woman". It's from 2002, and according to Cheeseman's catalogue, it doesn't mention it being released on any SEB album or anywhere else for that matter. Easily one of my fav Sinclaire Style songs ever! Such an amazing song...wow is all I can say!! I wish this song could make it on a future SEB album one day for others to enjoy. Not sure who is on vocals here. maybe Clara, but doesn't really sound like her.

Another unreleased SincliareStyle song that I heard was "Donna - Better Place to Be" from 2002. It's definitely Clara on vocals this time around.
I swear she sings something like this in the chorus "Everything you except from me, you will be my bitch. don't feed your illusions" lol.

Another song that I never heard of before, but actually WAS released but only found on the 12", is the special remix for "Leila - love me tender (Big House Mix)". It has a kind of house/freestyle mixed in with a slow eurobeat sound. Still has the same riff, but the rest of the beat is like a slow freestyle/house beat. Great stuff!!

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