New update on EUROLOVERS YT termination

[Crockett]

I think if you don't have a job or a college degree, music should be free to you.

Communist philosophy from ex USSR. Everybody should have, no matter what he does or whether he does at all…

The issue to me is why can't older tracks by SCP, Time, A-Beat C, etc. be released in some form or another, whether through Avex Special Collections or label-published compilations?

Hey, sorry, but I must to ask. What a f****** big deal is some part of discography you’ve never heard, you have no idea what is it, and you will never hear probably, which actually doesn’t exist, dug up from the databases of SIAE, ASCAP, JASRAC, from pockets of producers, from basements, that people still are talking about that ?

Collectors are looking for any records, released records, depending on the taste or target why they want them. You have a crazy number of CDs, vinyls from 30 years of Eurobeat in dozens styles, some are still out of Discogs memory, the more interesting, but some big deal is creation, which doesn’t exist on the market.

music is a business to them after all, but to us fans (well at least to me) business has nothing to do with music.

Theory. In the reality one question. Would you like to work daily like most of people out of the musical trade and spend the money for Xiao, to give him pleasure in his ears for free, instead of spend this money for family and real life ? That’s my point, what is the sense to discuss the contribution of money in passion of composing. It’s you, who told that one song costs 1000 $. If you have these thousands of $ from daily work to make the music for anime college fans, allright.

Homework - find out how long takes getting profits from Eurobeat copyrights after releasing. Add these thousands of $, which must be spent immediately, and invent a strategy how to survive just 1 year...

[Anthony McBazooka]

I think if you don't have a job or a college degree, music should be free to you.

Communist philosophy from ex USSR. Everybody should have, no matter what he does or whether he does at all…

So what?

[Crockett]

So what?

The answer is the 3rd part of my text.

But:

1. USSR is over - we should know the result of unlimited distribution of money for all.

2. Italo Disco is over - made from heart, no matter by who and where, with no desire to gain wealth.

3. Eurobeat (90's music) unjustly accused of making for money isn't over.

So if finally these producers received profits from the past music, the question is enough for what and for how long, if nowadays work additionally for current life, and even that spend money for keeping Eurobeat alive, is this ok from the fans side to say I'm poor, so I have right to take a merchandise for free ?

Production of which merchandise costs nothing? Which shops do exceptions for poor, students offering merchandise for free ?

It was once here written "Continued SEB is a gift". Big gift.

Take more and more from such gift or the best for free ?

[#Infinity]

Some musicians don't really need the extra cash to make a living, but they are in the stark minority, especially today. There are hundreds of thousands of struggling artists without the backing of major labels who can only make so much by promoting their music online, so when a good percentage of their fans pirate it, the financial impact they suffer is devastating.

If they can even manage to get some fans at all because if you're just a nobody the internet won't help you reach people without already knowing a lot of influential people or spending money on marketing.
It may have been quite easy for me to find a few fans for my Eurobeat stuff because there is a scene that's small enough so that a musician doesn't have much to do to get heard (there aren't many competitors, it's quite easy to find the few communities where you can share your stuff). On the other hand it doesn't help at all to make a living because the scene is too small for that.

Well, unlike more mainstream genera, which can at least muster thriving local scenes to support unknown musicians, independent eurobeat is pretty much under the hobby-only umbrella, especially now, but what about the labels who are actually trying to maintain a business like those still on SEB? They need to maximize their profits as much as possible to keep their studios and singers around, so their music should be highly accessible to everybody to purchase. Back in 2000, I'm sure they were earning a decent amount of income, but today, they're presumably forced to take side jobs just to stay active, so the financial and emotional burden is so much heavier for them. The effects of this really show in how safe the majority of labels are nowadays in their compositions.

[Anthony McBazooka]

1. USSR is over - we should know the result of unlimited distribution of money for all.

No, we don't know because this wasn't what happened in USSR. But at least you're right to criticise communism as a philosophy, because as a philosophy it sucks. Communism in my understanding is a form of economy where the purpose of production is the needs of the people instead of profit. This wouldn't be a bad thing at all and it wouldn't lead to anything even close to USSR. In the USSR the economy was always based on profit just with the difference that profit was shared between the workers. But this is far from an unlimited distribution of money for all.

I don't think we need to discuss if music should be available freely to those who don't have money to buy it. It is already freely available and this won't change no matter how much we discuss it here or in any other forum. But it's only available in a consumerist way. You can listen to everything but what if you are poor and want to create something? To make it short: you're fucked. Because music making costs a lot more than listening to music. Not only that you need to buy equipment – and to be able to be up-to-date in terms of production quality it will cost you a lot –, you'll also need disposable time and a free mind. But I can't see any discussions anywhere about this issue, it's always only about the consumerist part of music and arts in general. And this tells a lot about the society in which we live – which we should focus on and criticise instead of criticising past societies which don't matter anymore.