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Posted: 24 Jun 2006, 05:53
by drnrg
Jeurobeat wrote
Hey drnrg, you remember the label that used trance stuff first very obviously in their eurobeat songs? Yes, it was TIME records! Remember Helena - Voices on SEB 121? And after that, we had Toby Ash - My Love Is Forever on SEB128. Great songs, by the way, but certainly with trance influences.
I wouldn't call it exactly that way, The real diference here is the BPMs and the beautiful Elena Ferrati vocals. I do agree songs by Arena 69 and Giselle certainly have T***s flavour, but ingenuiously discreet.
I do remember TIME and ABeatC being two of the first Italo label that experimented with Techno in thier songs, but again most of the TIME well disguised.
As for my complaints on Trans. Yes it's no secret that I very much dislike the style. That is why my name is not Dr. Trans

I just feel that someone new to Eurobeat , might take it the wrong way seeing the word "Trans" all over an SEB review. I know better, but someone new might become confused.

Posted: 24 Jun 2006, 08:48
by DJ Mike
valiant wrote:I think it is predominantly Freddy in this track with Nauge backing him up slightly (along with her Ahahaah). Oddly I don't find him completely unbearable like as in 154...definitely caught me off gaurd as Nauge after listening to it first.
I'd originally agreed with this analysis, but I've been listening to some evidence that makes me draw some similar and some different conclusions:
Freddy's voice has a slightly harsher "rasping" sound to it - Nuage's voice is a slightly softer, but mostly warmer sound. The two are very close in sound, but there is some clear distinction too
Compare Freddy R's "R U Ready" to "Welcome To The Beach" if you don't believe it - the way he sings the opening line is all the evidence you need to take to the latter song. Just how many more years will he be able to keep up a high-pitched voice I wonder?
The confusing one is Dave & Nuage's "Don't Make Me Cry" - but that is definitely Nuage there, just that they used a technique similar to ABBA's "Gimme Gimme Gimme" where her voice is overdubbed twice at slightly different pitches to give that ringing quality.
I'm not convinced Nuage even features in "Welcome To The Beach" at all - the backing vocals sound like they're still Freddy R to be honest.
Geez, you'd think considering how similar Nuage & Freddy R sound though, that it was Dave & Nuage who had that kid, not Dave & Domino o_O
M;.
Posted: 24 Jun 2006, 10:25
by MarkIventi
Err nice try but listen again please

Nuage is the lead singer for sure in Yellowfin - I don't know if Freddy is the backing vocalist, I personally don't think so.
Posted: 24 Jun 2006, 10:58
by oresama-chan
Yeah, It's announced OFFICIALLY by A-Beat C that Yellowfin is another project of Nuage, that is to say the booklet of vol. 169 is saying so.
So I'm wondering if most of you downloaded vol. 169.
Then again it's not that all the things officially announced are necessarily
true, though.

Posted: 24 Jun 2006, 13:26
by DJ Mike
If that really is Nuage then she sounds horribly raspy compared to her normal voice - wonder if she had a cold or something, because it certainly sounds like she morphed into Freddy R.
Posted: 24 Jun 2006, 17:10
by Jion
I read it but I'm still convinced that Freddy is singing in it in some way.
Posted: 24 Jun 2006, 18:10
by MarkIventi
By the way, Nuage is such a nice girl! We took this one in 2003 at A.Beat-C:

Posted: 24 Jun 2006, 19:10
by UQ100
DJ Mike wrote:The confusing one is Dave & Nuage's "Don't Make Me Cry" - but that is definitely Nuage there, just that they used a technique similar to ABBA's "Gimme Gimme Gimme" where her voice is overdubbed twice at slightly different pitches to give that ringing quality.
You mean it's triple-tracked...?
Posted: 24 Jun 2006, 20:16
by cheeseman
MarkIventi wrote:By the way, Nuage is such a nice girl! We took this one in 2003 at A.Beat-C:

Cool! I wonder if you've got any rare photos of other A-Beat C artists... Some of us are dying to see any pics of, say Mickey B. or Karen, for example.

Posted: 24 Jun 2006, 22:57
by DJ Mike
UQ100 wrote:DJ Mike wrote:The confusing one is Dave & Nuage's "Don't Make Me Cry" - but that is definitely Nuage there, just that they used a technique similar to ABBA's "Gimme Gimme Gimme" where her voice is overdubbed twice at slightly different pitches to give that ringing quality.
You mean it's triple-tracked...?
No, I mean her voice will be recorded once, then overlayed again with a slight pitch difference - it certainly sounds that way. I read about the technique once in an interview with the guy who did a lot of the studio mixing for ABBA - the technique was born around the 70s and is very popular to this day, apparently.
Posted: 25 Jun 2006, 06:22
by drnrg
8)That triple double recording method has certainly been used a lot in (Italo Euro-hiNRG Beat) Right now I can think Of Claudio Magnani singing in that fashion in "LadyBug"
Everybody tells me there's no secret (No Secret)- I know (I KNow)
Every place I go I see you there(see You There) - here we go( here we go)
I don't care for strangers(Don't Care For)
They don't know I feel for you(Feel For You)
It's a touch of magic(Magic) in everything we do
The lines in quotes are also sung by Claudio, but in backup fasion. Really nice sounding to this fan!

Posted: 25 Jun 2006, 06:41
by oresama-chan
More commonly Clara was quite often singing doubly on Girls unit like
G&Q, High Frequency, Kate & Karen, Macho Gang, Niki Niki etc. and
triply on No Choice At Ramdom, Passion Hot Emotion by Marie Belle,
Make A Move by Candy Taylor, My Love by Jasmine to name a few.

Posted: 25 Jun 2006, 11:52
by Shawaazu
drnrg wrote:The lines in quotes are also sung by Claudio, but in backup fasion. Really nice sounding to this fan!

Agreed. Lady Bug is awesome!

Posted: 25 Jun 2006, 20:49
by drnrg
Oresama wrote
and
triply on No Choice At Ramdom, Passion Hot Emotion by Marie Belle,
I am ashamed to say, that at first I thought she was accompanied by male singer in those songs
There is a male companion singing with her on "No More Love" right?
I really miss Claudio singing in more relaxed fasion on songs like: Lady Bug, On My Own, Cassanova, Loving Your Lips, and even One Nite.
Posted: 26 Jun 2006, 05:06
by oresama-chan
drnrg wrote:
There is a male companion singing with her on "No More Love" right?
No, no male companion again.

Maybe Clara did back-up vocals on it, but
the lead vocals were done by someone with more deep and a bit harsh voice.