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I don't see how a 4 can be taken as 'acceptable' at all, but then, I'm also not the type who'll give something I just barely like a 7 ('game review syndrome') either.

A 4 can't even be close to average and can't be "OK" because it's still performed to less than half of someone's reviewing criteria.

KitsuneStar wrote:I don't see how a 4 can be taken as 'acceptable' at all, but then, I'm also not the type who'll give something I just barely like a 7 ('game review syndrome') either.

A 4 can't even be close to average and can't be "OK" because it's still performed to less than half of someone's reviewing criteria.

So, in your opinion, half of the entire earth's population are failures because they, statistically, are below average? :p Sounds like a silly way to think Usually, the 'acceptable' level is below the medium score because of the assumption, that most people/songs/whatever will satisfy the minimum requirements, and thus the grades are made so the majority of people or songs (who pass) will have the majority of the grades available, while the ones who fail will have a minority of grades available.

What would be nice is when Bore reviews an album...there should be a poll page showing our own rating on a scale from 1-5 for a certain song.

Let's take "Iron Man" from 177 for example
[insert Bore's review]
[average user rating and vote count]
we could have a separate link to a page where we can vote.

It would be nice to use this system because even though is usually on the ball with a song review, I know many forum-goers would disagree. The more people that vote, the better or worse a rating would have.

That average user rating thing is something I like as an idea, might be pretty easy to make happen as well.

Bore wrote:That average user rating thing is something I like as an idea, might be pretty easy to make happen as well.

I like that idea as well, however it woud be cool to just have a user review section as well, if everyone could agree on a rating scale..
I personally find the 10 point scale to be the simplest number scale.

My order came in the mail yesterday. Seems I ordered 176 AGAIN instead of 177 -.-

Densetsu13

My order came in the mail yesterday. Seems I ordered 176 AGAIN instead of 177 -.-

OUCH


para_rigby idea sounds great also the 1-10 point system sounds fair and most people are familiar with it. Inserting your own phrase is ok, just as long it's not just selected from a list that has been picked out. These are pittiful ways to describe any Eurobeat song.
[Taken from MKwiakaku's list]:

1.Awful, should be avoided at all costs
2.Worst ever, maybe useful as sadistic torture device

I dion't thinka ny Eurobeat Producer and or Vocalist would appreciate seeing this phrase to describe His/Her work.

The thing I'm still having trouble dealing with is the fact that not all songs are good and that is a fact, so why be a pansy about it, if it doesn't please you at all.

Arguing over music taste is known to be totally pointless, but there's also the fact that no matter how much work producers put into the songs, not every track turns out to be a masterpiece/good. Some turn out to be bad, and yes I know that what I might see as bad the next person might not.

But what's the point of doing reviews if you just go the midway even with productions that you find bad yourself? There's no written rules for what's the right kind of reviewing music. It's also very common for many "professional" music critics to give out very harsh comments about productions they aren't fond of. I don't really see the point in avoiding harsh criticism as in the end it's still just MY OPINION. People can think for themselves and it's just one opinion amongst so many others.

I can understand what you mean about producers not appreciating harsh criticism, but everybody faces criticism in the current society in one way or an another. And beating around the bush rarely did much good so I'd rather say how I feel that things are instead of painting pretty flowers everywhere.

And it's a fact like people already before pointed out that it's rare to have really bad songs/good songs. And I do tend to give out really good grades instead of bad ones, but every once in a while there is a song I would be happier not hearing at all. Those are the few times I could use such direct words.

drnrg wrote:Densetsu13

My order came in the mail yesterday. Seems I ordered 176 AGAIN instead of 177 -.-

OUCH

Yeah last time it happened was with SEB 164. What makes it more frustrating is that I kept getting emails confirming this and that and never noticed. What does balance it out though is that I got two other CDs in that order so still some new Eurobeat (and SEB 177 is now on the way with Para Para Hyper Best ♥)

Just got mine today, so I get a chance to review it. It's nowhere as bad as Bore would have you believe and definately better than 176. I gave quite a few 10, but also a few 5-4(being the worst rate for me) This cd is intreresting ,because the songs are iether great or bad. Not too much average sound. TIME and surpriselingly enough DELTA present me the best songs and AbeatC and Especially SCP the worst.

1. Daniel- One More TIME
Great way to start off the cd with the three new artist. Afterall AVEX should showcase them, because they are great. First of is DELTA. mr. Newfield is presenting us with a new vocalist who went by the name Daniel Danieli back on the Italo label Memory. To a few of us he sounds a bit like Simone Valeo. It is exactly his mellow vocals wich give this Daniel song the effect of the overall vibe of the song. Also the synths have a special power perfectly fitting the melody surrounding the main hook. I have not like a DELTA as much as this since "Sex Crime" Perfect score
10

2. Wendy White- Take Away
The buzz here is the Annerly Gordon vocals. Yes she sounds great, but take notice that this and The Rose remake are the best she has sounded in quite a while. Even her work at ABeatC recently does not compare. Sergio Dall Ora has really taken the TIME to produce for her songs that fit her vocal style to a T. Let's hope for more.
9

3. Mark Astly- Iron Man
What I said about "One More Try" goes double for this song. DELTA has presented me an even better song and my favorite on this cd. The 3 reasons are probly my own taste.
1. The vocalist sounds so much like Claudio and gives the song the power it needs to carry on the Crazy synths. He also sounds perfectly for the type of lyrics written for the song.
2. I allready mentioned the synths. They come so perfectly close to HRG Attack especially in the main hook. I remember Tam Arrow songs sounding so great with the HRG Attack style. The song actually gives me a Medieval vibe When I listen to it:D
3. The song as a whole fits in perfect synch. The verses -Bridge and chorus all all build up to each other in a way that I concider demonstrates the song's power! .This song could be perfect for the upcomming Marvel flick IronMan. Now let's just hope they make one for Silver Surfer.
10+(demonstattes above perfect)

4. Nuage- Singing On The Stars
Was it really necessary for AVEX to insert this song and ruin the power of the cd's intro? When it comes to romantic ABeatC, I much rather have Norma Sheffield than Nuage. I find Nuage vocals a little week and with this even weeker song, it makes the whole production almost transparent.
5

5. Kelly T.- Come Baby Love Me
This one is even worse because apart from sounding almost identical to Nuage ;in style not content ; the song lowers the bpms in the main hook. Not a good idea when your song allreadt is slow to begin with. I really enjoyed "Take me To Heaven", but this song just missing the charm that her voacls had previously. At least the Nuage main hook was faster then the rest of the song.
5-

6. Kiki & Fancy-Go Bananas
While most of SCP fans felt let down with this track ,I felt even worse. It sort of reminds of a rejected Go Go Girls song. The main chorus is totally annoying(I'm glad I wasn't the first to mention it) The production as a whole really lacks the charm of "Roly Poly Rock" as well as the lyrical content. By far one of SCPs worst songs to date.
4

7. Fastway- Crash Boom Burn Me
SCP manages to shoot the level of thier music back to "A" status with this track. Sure it sounds like a handfull of Fastway's other tracks? So What? The style works him perfectly. It showcases his vocal ability and SCPs writing ability when it comes to music. It amazes me how AVEX has the balls to add this surfire hit and the Kiki & Fancy mess both on the same cd. I would much rather have 3 Fastway songs! Just change his alias to Thomas Lee or Doctor Stranger. It works for Gambogi and Valeo why not for SCP?
9

8. Cyberella- I Am Cyberella
When it comes to Happy/Girly Eurobeat, I'm not exactly a fan, but when HRG deliver a Happy Choatic song like this one, I find myself suddenly singing along. IMOP it's those hyped up vocals that give this style Eurobeat the Power they so much deserve. Greta really delivers those Hype voacls to a T and Daddy Accantino provides her with the perfect viehical to showcase that ability.
8+

9. De Leo- Another Life
Finally some TIME. Why AVEx makes me wait almost 10 songs' Those (Fill In Blank) Anyhoo, we are treated to the style that TIME has mastered in such a short TIME. In fact they got it right the first TIME with "Only For Love, Only For You" If Groovy-Disco Eurobeat is your style, then You will love this track too. Sources say that we will be seeing a lot more and even Elena will take a wack at lead vocals. Ah can't hardly wait.
9

10. Alexis- Night Prayer
...and speaking of Elena, we are once more graced with her almost Opera style vocals. It seems she has gotten hold of her love for fast Eurobeat again. This is a great sign. In style the song resembles "One Night In Tokyo" a lot. Whicjh is important when establishing a style that a different alias can be related to. Mr. Dall Ora has again created the perfect fusing of an intro-Verse,bridge and especially main hook into another hit for his stable. this one takes you straight into, what I like to call Elena BLISS.
10

11. Powewrful T.- Dangerous Love
The first thing I notice is that this TIME around Powerful T. does not rely too much on the Rollercoaster effect of his vocals, but rather in the atmosphere of the song. This is a good developement. I fear those Synths again break up the song into two genres. One trying to sound like traditional Dave Rodgers power, but pulled into Transy melody. This ruins the song for me. It makes it sound too fast for it's own good asn is not pleasing to the ear. Howerver underneath all that, there lyes a pretty decent song.
7-

12. Candy Taylor- Fly
It is great to hear Clara again, but this is DELTA's weekest link on the cd. The song sounds Powerful. No doubt there, but I really disagree, because it relys on an annoying bass sound that almost ruins the atmosphere of the song. Infact, after a few listens ,I still couldn't get used to these and all other effects that do not showcase Eurobeat soundworlds. I could listen to the song a few TIMEs more, but is not one of my choice songs. I much rather perfer another version of this song that I have heard.
6-

13. Kasanova- What Kinda Cure 2007
This has got to be the best TIME remake yet. While "Melodies Of Love" and "Perfect TIME" sound great, This one actually contains G.Gamboi's identity. If one has never heard the original, you would think it a new song, because again Dall Ora knows exactly where to insert the Eurobeat instruments to bring the song into the 2000s. Kudos for G. Gambgi in Holding the "Blue" note during the chorus. This was his own idea.
10

14. Garcon- Hannibal The Cannibal
With Hannibal Rising on the Horizon, it seems like nice idea to write a song about him. The best part of this song has to the main Synth hook. Vocally the song is great, but maybe a little force in the melodyline he has to follow. The lyrics are classic CRAZY-CHOATIC HRG Attack and in the end you feel quite satisfied with the overall collaboration of the melody and instruments chosed to represent it's POWER.
8+

15. Leslie Parrish- King Of Hearts
This one is very special for me ,because of Phil & Stan vibe, but also what I didn't like in "Fly", really drew my attention to this song. From it's whack intro to all backround effects. Lasers especially and it also sounds like the Prophet is yelling. Only this TIME he does not ruin the atmosphere of the song. Lately DELTA has been adding some Eurodance style effects into thier productions. This TIME around it just works.
9-

16. Dave Rodgers- Watch Out
This song is good, but I can also name 100 other songs that perfer from Giancarlo. The guitar allways a good effect and he doesn't use that rehashed melody, but maybe just needed that extra "umph" to give it a better rating. The best part is the main hook and the way it uses the synths, but I also think the bridge sounds very good and showcases his vocals in a way he can build up to the main chorus.This one will definately grow on me, because of his vocals. I'm one of the fans who still perfer his vocals to any other ABEATC artist. Again why not just change his alias and present more songs?
9-

17. Ayi Yamamoto- Pink In The Pink
Ok Here is the thing. I have conflicting feelings over this song. I like the Music melody and especially her vocals, just can't see myself singing along to this one. Everytime I get this feeing the song reminds me of Lesbians. Which is not a bad thing, just as long as they are hot With that aside, the musical content is actuallt pretty good with emphasis on the word pretty.
7-


18. Manuel- Ready Steady Go
I know most fans concider this to the the best track on cd. I disagree. First I am not such a big Anthem or racing style Eurobeat fan and second I do not really care for the style of Manuel's vocals. The song sounds like all other Manuel songs and the screams during the chorus are annoying at best. I can't really say too much for ABEATC's rehashed melody style. I'm just glad Dave steered away from this one. Bad way to end a cd.
6

Well this Cd is not as bad as I was thought to believe. Though trax 4-6 were beyond bad., My real concern is ABEATC, because they take up too much cd space and now with Go Go's music even more. I was a huge fan of thier's in the past(got over 100 of thier vinyls) , buy lately I hear missing links in synth and musical style. SCP also need to drop acts like Kiki & Fancy and just stick to 3 Fastway or Ace songs per cd. TIME as allways did supirior job with each style they tackle as did HRG, but my special thanks go out to Laurent Newfield for creating such AWESOME DELTA music this on this cd. I hope to see a lot more Daniel and synth style of Iron Man. Still my main concern is ABEATC. I had to give grades I usually choose not to. Might I suggest doing some remakes of thier past hits?

Good review! However I like Ready Steady Go! a lot.. but, your opinion right?

I can whole heartedly agree that Delta needs to remix some past hits, namely bring back Mr. De Jorio.

Thanks Schiznik. You are also one of the fans that really like DELTA music and the cd as a whole . I had to edit and insert Ai Yamamoto's song, because I totally forgot it the first TIME around.

..about Manuel See I've never been a great fan of Racing Eurobeat or it's mega fast style(Fastway being the only exception). My Favs ,TIME hardly ever put out that type of Eurobeat, but rather rely on Classic Italo hooks for thier main melody line and HRG Attack; while definately megafast, have that MEDIEVAL vibe that gives thier music a whole other identity.The thing is after seeing someone write "Hell, F**king Yeah" as a phrase to described the Manuel song, I really expected a "BOMBA, but was let down. The Dave Rodgers song more than made up for that IMOP

I really think that A BEAT C has gone down hill quality-wise since the 140s. Delta and Time have risen back to the top this decade with awesome songs like "Rain" and "Bad Bad Bad". HI-NRG is just as the name implies....they have done much better than in the 160s with the horrendous "Harajuku Girls". Last, but not least, SCP (one of my favorite labels) is having an identity crisis finally. I'm disappointed with songs like "Tuttifrutti Lollipop" and "Starry Sky", but love productions like "One Touch" and "Wanna Be With You"...

The 170s have become a sort of battle ground to see who can have my devotion this year.

Delta is on my top spot these past couple of albums.

I agree that both SCP and ABEATC should take a good long look or rather listen to thier past hits and recapture that charm of songs like of "Not For Sale" and "Big On Emotion" though I liked "Starry Sky" a lot.

I'm a huge Giancarlo fan and know that he can come up with so much better material. His work at FLEA and TIME are some of my favorite songs and early ABEATC just made me want more, but lately the songs are missing something essential to give them the ABEATC identity worthy of calling it a song born under Giancarlo Paquinni's hand. It is such a treat to get a song like "Black Devil" or "Lucky Man" on SEB, but also very rare nowadays. This is no effect a putdown, but rather a summons to crack out those mega hits we are so used to from ABEATC team

The 170s have become a sort of battle ground to see who can have my devotion this year.

Ever since Saifam departure from SEB, DELTA has really stepped up to the plate to take on HRG as #2, but to Reach my all-TIME devotion champions(TIME) looks bleak. Having worked with so many artists in the past artist at TIME has really given Mr. Sergio Dall Ora the experience of a Eurobeat Master and it shows on all his latest productions

I'm trying to work out if the vocalist behind Joe Yellow is Giancarlo Pasquini (Dave Rodgers).. Certainly sounds like him!

The listing on the EBP database shows a ? for vocalist - and given that this song has never been released in full on CD it seems unsurprising

Anyone care to listen and have a stab?[/list]