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@Toni: The new version is definitely interesting, and an improvement over the previous.
Good points:
*Lyrics are actually pretty nice.
*Music is well-done, no instances of potentially unintended dissonance.
*Quite hooky, catchy. With some revisions, this could be a marketable song.
Possible things to consider:
*The entire piece sounds pretty close to the same. Not much really changes between the chorus, verses, and sabi. Some changes to this would give the song a touch more proffessionalism. (I'm pretty guilty of the same thing... -_-)
*It's Eurobeat... enough. I suggest, however, using the rave stabs or the strikes on the upbeat (the "AND" of the beat's "one AND two AND three AND four AND"), and some open hi-hat on the same, would enhance the overall Eurobeat "feel" of it. Also consider getting some background singers to do what I call the "Disney" effect (basically, when I first heard the background singers for Hi-NRG attack, I was reminded of Lock, Shock and Barrell from Nightmare Before Christmas... hence the name), which, if done right, would MULTIPLY the Eurobeat effect. Then again, this facet is totally up to you, and it wouldn't be a "bad" song if you left it as is.
*I don't mean to be harsh, but I'm sure that you could lay down a better vocal track if you took some time, recorded it piece by piece, and picked out the best chunks. While you do hit the notes, some of them are "weaker" in spots than others. I'd be interested to hear how you sing without the cocktails

It's a solid track, without question. There's just a kink or two to work out. Keep up the good work. Your characters would be proud. :3

Thanks for your comments zoupzuop2! I'll keep your suggestions in mind.

You seem to have a good hearing for music fine-tuning. It might be an idea to market songs in the future somehow. Care to set up a label or something? *anyone interested at all?*

Just a snack for in between:

I tried to remake 'Sometimes' from Via Verdi, since this is one of my favourite songs. It's a bit like Trance, but I tried to put in some Eurobeat-like synths.

http://toniproductions.nl/Resources/Manga/Sometimes.m4a

It's without vocals and it's quite short. Maybe I can use this for a party-cd or something...

Toni wrote:Thanks for your comments zoupzuop2! I'll keep your suggestions in mind.
You seem to have a good hearing for music fine-tuning. It might be an idea to market songs in the future somehow. Care to set up a label or something? *anyone interested at all?*

Eh, I'll pass for now. Although I have made it a goal to have a song of mine show up in Super Eurobeat Whatever-number before I die of old age, cancer, or random Oingo-Boingo* tribe shaman dagger. If that happens any time soon and I find that I like the scene that much, I might ring 'ya up.
I've got a fair musical background, so I've got my family to thank for whatever musical fine-tuning skills I may have. I was raised on 80's rock and New Wave, Kraftwerk, Kansas, jazz, Earth Wind and Fire, and a whole lot of great music, so it's nearly genetic.

*-Bonus points if anyone catches the reference.

Danny Elfman...?

I'm not sure about marketing, but it might be a nice idea for more collaboration here. I know two of my better productions were ones Oresama wrote. Plus it opens up the field of possible vocalists (although all of kinda suck (well, I do, at least)) Who knows, maybe something as simple as a midi swap, if anyone has good ideas for chords or melodies that they can't seem to work with, or have random blocks.

So I just started making another Euro sounding track. Very basic so far.

http://rapidshare.com/files/7414266/Eurobeat_3.mp3.html

Any comments or suggestions would be nice =]

I've made a topic on our first collaboration:

http://forum.eurobeat-prime.com/viewtop ... 2667#12667

Could one of the moderators please move this on to a new sub-Forum? I think this idea of producing collaborative Eurobeat has potential.

Well, haven't posted in a while. Haven't *done much* in a while. Compy is a bit frizzy, but managed to work enough to get this out. Thought I'd post it.

Bla Bla Bla

Tried to make it Kiki & Fancyesque. Needs a bit more filling.

Honey, when you chat with me I see your mouth movin'
Honey, when I talk to you the signal I'm losin'
You go on and take so long attention is booin'
Baby, now my mind is gone and my brain is oozin'

Talk and talk
Yap and yap
Make it stop, just shut your top
Nag and nag
Sag and sag
Won't you free my mind?

Bla bla bla-bla-bla, make it stop
Taking too much energy you don't shut up
Bla bla bla-bla-bla, oral shock
You know I love you, but just please shut up

Honey, when you hold me tight I can't hear the silence
Honey, when you're next to me my ears cryin' violence
Don't you take a minute, wanna hear my heart boomin'
Baby, quiet's golden but with you it'd be diamonds

EDIT: Oh, wow, new forum for this. Heh.. Happened while I was posting/editing, didn't even notice.

EDITx2: Mika Demo - recorded a very quick vocal version so the real vocalist would have an idea of what I want.

Heh love the lyrics and the melody sounds really nice as well. And Kiki & Fancyesque is always a big plus

@Mesdoram: Once again, another great track. Once again, however, not quite Eurobeat. I do notice improvements in that facet, though; you have added the stabs on the upbeat, which flavors it somewhat better. Bass is also tastefully done. The problem is that it sounds more like trance with the same synth line going. A sabi or intro of the sort would more likely contain a line with a synth-brass or sawtooth sound. I don't know what software you're using, but it sounds like something that would come with the right sounds as standard.
Just keep listening to the Eurobeat you like, but listen for what they do, and take it to your work. It's wrought SO much improvement on my work, and it could work for you too. Keep writing, too.

@Mikaeru: A lot of potential, this one. Try mixing in some WAVs or something to make it a bit more proffessional. Also refine the synths used from the first few seconds on. Do those, send them to your vocalist, and you'll have a truly well-done Eurobeat track.

New song!

It's poorly recorded and lacks vocals, but I've test-driven a new toy with this one (The Proteus 3 from E-MU, an "Earthy" sound module). A bit more regard for structure.

www.myspace.com/travisodyssey

I intend for the lyrics to be a duet with "Natasha". Given my experience with Hi-NRG Attack, Hi-NRG Attack and more Hi-NRG Attack, they may be a bit... weak. At any rate, they will be like so, at least, as of now:

(A Melo)
Come on baby, we're dancin' together
Take me to the beat
Put the rhythm on the dance floor
Push it with your feet

(B Melo)
You aren't moving,
Ay-ay-ay!
Why can't you tell me
Why-yi-yi
Start the fire, I'm ready to go
Movin' to the Ligh-yi-yight!

(Sabi)
India in the Sunrise
You gott'a take it to the top
India in the Moonlight
And I don't ever want to stop
This power!
(Repeat Twice)

(C Melo)
It isn't over, it's only beginning
Power all night long
You gott'a listen to the rhythm, beat boy
Move me, make me strong

Sounds really promising. I like the arrangement in the chorus especially. You tend to lose the feeling of the drums during the synth bit and the chorus though. I *like* how the snare sounds, taking over, but you lose the bassdrum almost completely. As well, the extended synth melody is a bit rare.

But it sounds good. Should be interesting with vocals.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K2JT4QJZ

Here's just another short synth line that I made recently. I've pretty much just been messing around with some stuff trying to develop a nicer sound. I think I've improved quite a bit since the last time I posted anything. Comments and suggestions appreciated

That is definitely an improvement, good job

I was trying to go for more of that classic Delta style and I think it turned out pretty well.