Eurobeat Prime :: Forum

Shawaazu wrote:Really, so it's not that common or popular? Well, I think it still might be a possibility since it seems DJ Shu loves the song a lot, since he samples it quite a number of times... off the top of my head. At the end of I Wanna Dance in SEB 140 and in between Dancing In The Starlight and In The Flame Of Fire in Best 2002.

I have a suspicion a "real" SAW collector would say it's not that obscure, but they are known to spend £100 on one single (I don't care to scrape the barrel _that_ much!). But it's from 1985 it seems, really before they made it big time, and was not a big hit, and they had no shortage of those.

Shawaazu wrote:

drnrg wrote:If we are talking Michael Prince, It sounds original enuff..and very DOA.

EXACTLY. I was seeing it being an Oda cover.

Hmm, (the version I have) sounds a bit DOA, also like (e.g., the chords) like Hazell Dean stuff ("Whatever I Do").

Shawaazu wrote:

UQ100 wrote:It seemed like he was not exactly interested in Sonia or those songs.

True, from his responses it gave off the vibe that he was forced to do that song which is kind of a shame cause I like it (though I think it would've been better with Sonia alone, Nuage kinda ruins it with her accent).

Well, half-hearted efforts won't ever match near-perfect originals...

drnrg wrote:

UQ100 wrote:What style do you call "Touch Me"?[

I call it "Arena Rock" just change her vocals to Joe Elliot's and you got a DEf Leppard song. Not to put them down, because they are my fav rock band

and...

oresama-chan wrote:I think we called "Touch Me" just Rock at that time. I wasn't conscious of categorising music.

LOL, just 'cause it has some rhythm, distorted and sustained guitar parts (and a ridiculous music video of a Sam Fox performing at a "rock concert") doesn't make it a rock song! I'd call it more synth-pop... Oh well.

UQ100[/quote]LOL, just 'cause it has some rhythm, distorted and sustained guitar parts (and a ridiculous music video of a Sam Fox performing at a "rock concert") doesn't make it a rock song! I'd call it more synth-pop... Oh well.[quote]

Synth Pop Are you kidding? "Touch Me" had Journey and Night Ranger written all overr it. You won't call em Synth pop. You call them Arena Rock. Not exactly Hard Rock(AC/DC) nor classic rock(Boston), but Glam Arena Rock. At least "Touch Me" and "Do Ya" were. After that she became SAW style dance music.

There is no way in hell "Touch Me" by Samantha Fox is any style of Rock - but hey, when SCP and Trance are apparently one and the same, why the hell not eh?

lololol at what ditz said XD

I probably blatantly missed something here, but what is "SAW"?

Stock-Aitken-Waterman

Densetsu13 wrote:lololol at what ditz said XD

I probably blatantly missed something here, but what is "SAW"?

UK producers between 1984-1991 (after Aitken left), 100+ UK top 40 singles, 13 UK number 1 singles. Started out with Hi-NRG stuff.

You liked "Just the Way to Love," so I guess you should like their stuff. (Pete Hammond worked at PWL [=Pete Waterman Limited] as well.)

Speaks for itself, really...

Divine...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyVk9miOJyI

DOA... (=ODA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMLM8jFzuuY

Bananarama... (=Michael Fortunati -- "Give Me Up")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbhDFwxhVkA

Kylie... (=Kevin Johnson -- "Got to be Your Lover")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RQxztYb3oE

Sonia... (=Crap Nuage cover)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nMp3YvL6mg


Unfortunately this type of music was destroyed by "DJ culture" and "real band" garbage and dismissed as cheap and cheesy.

Wow thanks a lot for clarifying all that for me and I had no idea those songs existed except for the DOA one. =o

So I'm assuming Time's I Need A Miracle is a cover of Fortunati's Give Me Up and his is a cover of the bananarama song?

lol, it feels like my eyes have just been opened up.

While I was watching that video clip of "I Heard A Rumor"
(oddly enough this is the first time I watched it!), I remembered
seeing ppl dancing with that choreography. That should be one of
the primeurs of parapara.

Densetsu13 wrote:So I'm assuming Time's I Need A Miracle is a cover of Fortunati's Give Me Up and his is a cover of the bananarama song?

"Give Me Up" came before "I Heard A Rumor", so Michael Fortunati took
SAW to court, if I remember right.

oresama-chan wrote:"Give Me Up" came before "I Heard A Rumor", so Michael Fortunati took SAW to court, if I remember right.

That's what I heard as well, although I don't know if this is just a rumour (pun intended) or any of the details (e.g., whether they made a settlement or he won the case), but it's an obvious rip-off. Although if the copy I have is actually the original, then SAW did conspiciously improve on it, I think.

I guess it's only because Eurobeat is not exactly in the spotlight (or sales are so low?) that court cases don't occur for some of these new tracks which seem to ride on the edge of infringement?

oresama-chan wrote:While I was watching that video clip of "I Heard A Rumor" (oddly enough this is the first time I watched it!), I remembered seeing ppl dancing with that choreography. That should be one of the primeurs of parapara.

LOL... I guess Bananarama's dance routines were arm-movement heavy.

UQ100 wrote

LOL... I guess Bananarama's dance routines were arm-movement heavy.

Back in late 86-89. A high Energy movement in Latino community sprung with groups like S.T.O.P. Tyrants In Therapy, Trilogy, Mike Bow ect.. These songs were danced with heavy arm movement often leading to a kind of duel between two male dancers in the spotlight, until one left the floor defeated. Yours truly was in one of these dance groups(Rendezvous Boys) The dance steps were very Para para but much faster. I notice Para para is very slow and not really to the fast melody of Eurobeat. In fact I could not get into Para Para, as it looks sort of silly at times....
He He! I sometimes reminince my old days and throw my dance moves to Eurobeat. They really go hand in hand.

Heh, even though I've seen that Bananarama music clip a few times, I never really noticed the similarities with Give Me Up... until now

Same thing with the I Should Be So Lucky = Got To Be Your Lover thing. I've heard both songs plenty of times before but I only recognized the similarities when they were pointed out when Kevin Johnson's version was released XD