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Crockett
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Post by Crockett » 15 Nov 2016, 18:02

M2-EB wrote:Crockett, are you retard?

Why can't you just fuck off and leave people alone?
If the artists and labels or whatever are so damn worried about shit they would do something themselves.

You're a fucking pain in the ass, dude.
Me? Correct, they, not me, it's not my post, but a screenshot !

Just so funny to see such image, how retarded must be someone who twice provokes and is looking for real troubles.

Some kind of mission? Must have each SEB on YouTube channel, so even once reported and deleted song, deliberately has been uploaded again.

But you said I'm retarded... Everything to have next "fan" on your side instead of show the true.

And then I'm surprised why only you don't accept my friend request on Facebook - because you don't prefer people care of artists and rules, but fans care about themselves.

You didn't have to insult me, but I would be really retarded, if I care of your "important" words.

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Post by M2-EB » 15 Nov 2016, 19:47

I expressed myself badly and I recognize but I won't edit my post since there's no use (you quoted it lmao)

I'm so sorry people affect you this much that you feel the need to go after them and create this heavy atmosphere. Unfortunately, there's no blocking feature here, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

:???:

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Post by Crockett » 15 Nov 2016, 20:10

M2-EB wrote:I'm so sorry people affect you this much that you feel the need to go after them and create this heavy atmosphere.
I have some moods and way of expressing opinions, but I don't laught straight in the eyes of people who make for me music, that they can't stop me, when I share their work for free...

Because they can.

Seriously, I only don't like so immature attitude and disgusting ignorance, disrespect calling yourself fan.

What f*cking for somebody shares his own CD even once was already blocked and now artists are looking for him?

Let's skip why someone can't buy a CD. I read many explanations and I respect them.

Innocent Cy-Ro closed temporary or deleted his Facebook account so quickly after these posts.

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Post by Lebon14 » 15 Nov 2016, 20:27

Crockett wrote:Congratulations for next upload of Mari song by the same person, even first time it was blocked, after one month next try.
Leave your scare tactics out of here. Including Mr. Gabrielli's. You fucking know what I'm talking about.

Leaving the song(s) out of Youtube won't help you sell more CDs. People that are interessed by it usually buy it day 1 anyway. Those that don't purchase it, won't purchase it. That you or someone else uploaded Mari's song on YT or share MP3s doesn't f*ing change a single thing. Somebody tries to fucking share the eurobeat love and you guys just shut it down and then you fucking wonder why nobody buy the fucking CDs. How many fucking time do WE have to say it? GET THE FUCK OUT THE 80's! WE ARE IN 2016 ALMOST 2017! Your money is on the fucking internet. Adapt or get out!

Get that in your thick skull.

I swear this fucking community... it gets more and more toxic by the fucking day. It's like the SEB 184 Fiasco all over again...
Crockett wrote:Innocent Cy-Ro closed temporary or deleted his Facebook account so quickly after these posts.
You fucking coward. Your fucking scare tactics, I swear. You are no different than those big wigs copyright trolls!!
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Post by Bonkers » 15 Nov 2016, 20:41

Lebon14 wrote: People that are interessed by it usually buy it day 1 anyway. Those that don't purchase it, won't purchase it.
Not always true. Bonkers Vol. 10 came out in 2003. I just bought it last week.

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Post by Crockett » 15 Nov 2016, 20:44

Lebon14 wrote:
Crockett wrote:Congratulations for next upload of Mari song by the same person, even first time it was blocked, after one month next try.
Leave your scare tactics out of here. Including Mr. Gabrielli's. You fucking know what I'm talking about.

Leaving the song(s) out of Youtube won't help you sell more CDs. People that are interessed by it usually buy it day 1 anyway. Those that don't purchase it, won't purchase it. That you or someone else uploaded Mari's song on YT or share MP3s doesn't f*ing change a single thing. Somebody tries to fucking share the eurobeat love and you guys just shut it down and then you fucking wonder why nobody buy the fucking CDs. How many fucking time do WE have to say it? GET THE FUCK OUT THE 80's! WE ARE IN 2016 ALMOST 2017! Your money is on the fucking internet. Adapt or get out!

Get that in your thick skull.

I swear this fucking community... it gets more and more toxic by the fucking day. It's like the SEB 184 Fiasco all over again...
Crockett wrote:Innocent Cy-Ro closed temporary or deleted his Facebook account so quickly after these posts.
You fucking coward. Your fucking scare tactics, I swear. You are no different than those big wigs copyright trolls!!
We stopped, you started...

I asked what for this man does his sharing crazy "mission" openly against people who even decided share his name public?

And what for your emotions, insulting me by coward? He escaped from Facebook, not me...

Sharing that screenshot was for me funny what may happen yet. But scare tactics? Need a doctor here...

Maybe smarter should leave the topic, but if I've begun already...

And that's you Lebon14, who buys CD...

:cry: :(

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Post by M2-EB » 15 Nov 2016, 20:48

Bonkers wrote:
Lebon14 wrote: People that are interessed by it usually buy it day 1 anyway. Those that don't purchase it, won't purchase it.
Not always true. Bonkers Vol. 10 came out in 2003. I just bought it last week.
Talking about eurobeat releases, I assume.

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Post by Bonkers » 15 Nov 2016, 20:59

M2-EB wrote:
Bonkers wrote:
Lebon14 wrote: People that are interessed by it usually buy it day 1 anyway. Those that don't purchase it, won't purchase it.
Not always true. Bonkers Vol. 10 came out in 2003. I just bought it last week.
Talking about eurobeat releases, I assume.

I buy older releases. I bought 202, 206, 213, 216, 219 on cdjapan. 213, 216, & 219 I bought 2 years after they had been releases, and I just bought 202 & 206 this year. Granted, I bought 202 from Takkumi on his Ebay page, but funds were still spent on the album. I buy most older albums used off Amazon.

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Post by Lebon14 » 15 Nov 2016, 21:06

Crockett wrote:We stopped, you started...
Maybe I would have stopped if MAYYYYYYYYYYYYYBE you wouldn't just try to do the Eurobeat Police every damn time a Youtube video pops up! Like Mari's song.
Crockett wrote:I asked what for this man does his sharing crazy "mission" openly against people who even decided share his name public?
I've seen the screenshot briefly during lunch time but I don't remember it clearly.
Crockett wrote:And what for your emotions, insulting me by coward? He escaped from Facebook, not me...
Oh you know what you did. And have you asked yourself WHY he escaped? Maybe that you and Mr. Gabrielli scared him. Maybe a comment on a certain video left by the later? Hmmmmm?

And people that use such tactics to accomplish their personal agenda, I call them cowards.
Crockett wrote:Sharing that screenshot was for me funny what may happen yet. But scare tactics? Need a doctor here...
Do you need the definition of "Scare tactics"? Or better known as "Fear mongering":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_mongering

You scared him off the internet. Congrats.

Oh and by the by, you were pretty much piggybacking Mr. Gabrielli's comments. No denying.

@Bonkers: Yeah, sure... Except that the purchase that counts toward the number of sales are usually those who are purchased around the release date and, depending how much it sold, it may or may not be counted for an extended period of time. I doubt SEB is counted more than a month.

@M2-EB: Yes, I was.
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Post by Crockett » 15 Nov 2016, 21:19

Lebon14 wrote:Oh you know what you did. And have you asked yourself WHY he escaped? Maybe that you and Mr. Gabrielli scared him. Maybe a comment on a certain video left by the later? Hmmmmm?

Oh and by the by, you were pretty much piggybacking Mr. Gabrielli's comments. No denying.
I never commented any video. And I don't use on YouTube fake name, but my personal. Or I understood wrongly what you meant. All my statements are here anyway, not on the other sites, either Facebook.

Please stop accusing me of some hidden strategy. I'm not an artist. Different case are my posts, whatever bad you feel in them.
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Post by Bonkers » 15 Nov 2016, 21:23

This idea of "Who still buys CDs anyways?" needs to go. That's the format this music is released on whether you think it's outdated or not, so if you want it, like to actually say you benefited to the product, then you buy it. Period. There's no other way of thinking around that outside the realm of "I like this, so I deserve to have it without paying for it."


If you want to spread the Eurobeat love, do what everyone else in the EDM world does and get on virtualDJ and make a mix, share it, and if people like what they hear, then they can buy the tracks themselves off the SEB releases.

Is it such a big deal though that SEB tunes are on youtube? Why do you think I bought older SEBs? I heard the tracks on youtube, liked them, so I bought the album. People like hearing previews. What's wrong is when people provide a download link in the video description.

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Post by M2-EB » 15 Nov 2016, 21:29

Bonkers wrote:
But that's the point :)
I guess there's no use talking reason to someone who doesn't want to listen.

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Post by Kat » 15 Nov 2016, 22:12

Personally I think that if we've discovered Eurobeat we have to say thanks to YouTube unless you are a japanese or have a BF or you're just an otaku OR eurodance lover.

I'm an EUROpean girl from EUROPE and I love EUROdance BUT I can't buy EURObeat in Europe because it's made especially for japanese people.

If I could buy/efford IN MY OWN COUNTRY without buying CDs straight from Japan which is complicated I would be very satisfied.

So just love listening to the songs on YT and keep talking about EURObeat 'cause we need to spread the love and OPEN THE EUROPEAN MARKET DUUUUUHHHHH :cry:

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Post by para_rigby » 15 Nov 2016, 22:26

Crockett,

How does putting a person's stuff up on the forums make the situation any better? Seriously? I get that you are very passionate and that you have morals and ideals about eurobeat. That's great and I can appreciate it, but you've really gone and alienated a good group of people both here and Initial D World who want nothing to do with you. People feel like you snoop for the musicians and that can be perceived as being 'The Eurobeat Police'. I mean if you look at the history of what you post, it's not really about the music. There's a good amount of judgment from you about other fans WHETHER or not you feel you are doing it.

You go back and forth with both forum communities and you get nowhere, but people angry at you. Why keep pushing topics that people don't want to fight you on? Take Initial D World for example. They will always freely share music on there. That's how it has been since its creation. YOU, ME, NOR ANYONE else can stop that. It's not our place to.

I do agree with Lebon and others that you have certainly made the forums more toxic. And the funny thing is, I don't think you realize that you are doing that.

I won't get into it with you because it's not worth my time, but if you want to survive on these forums, it might behoove you not to go after people.

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Post by Crockett » 15 Nov 2016, 23:11

para_rigby wrote:Crockett,

How does putting a person's stuff up on the forums make the situation any better? Seriously? I get that you are very passionate and that you have morals and ideals about eurobeat. That's great and I can appreciate it, but you've really gone and alienated a good group of people both here and Initial D World who want nothing to do with you. People feel like you snoop for the musicians and that can be perceived as being 'The Eurobeat Police'. I mean if you look at the history of what you post, it's not really about the music. There's a good amount of judgment from you about other fans WHETHER or not you feel you are doing it.

You go back and forth with both forum communities and you get nowhere, but people angry at you. Why keep pushing topics that people don't want to fight you on? Take Initial D World for example. They will always freely share music on there. That's how it has been since its creation. YOU, ME, NOR ANYONE else can stop that. It's not our place to.

I do agree with Lebon and others that you have certainly made the forums more toxic. And the funny thing is, I don't think you realize that you are doing that.

I won't get into it with you because it's not worth my time, but if you want to survive on these forums, it might behoove you not to go after people.
No regret.

Yes, we are different. I have own targets and look at Eurobeat music, own way to realize my passion.

I don't look for enemies.

But really paranoia what you can read above, that Cy-Ro is somehow now a victim of artist and my conspiracy !

Sometimes I have worse day or poorly assemble english statements with much less important things or judgements. Ok.

Anyway first I must appreciate what I gained personally and found out, being seriously the Eurobeat listener since just a couple years!

I have these all stuffs, satisfaction, respect, informations thanks to the artists and my friendship, friendly approach, not thanks to regular talking with anonymous forum nicknames just for fun.

Of course I speak with some fans privately as well.

Well, if anybody wants to express antipathy to me due to the forum or Facebook discussions and doesn't like my public posts deliberately, I know such persons, here psychiatrist is necesarry. Be the fan of mine or music? Madness.

Two forums, two communities, Facebook groups, but say also about, if not hundreds, so about dozens of fans, who really don't care about neither communities, because only music and artists are absolutely the main things for them.

Japanese fans don't argue and teach artists, it's not mentality we can meet here, on the internet, for addition so various in every each place.

The Eurobeat world would be better a little too, if fans would prefer the authority of musicians not themselves.

Me? I know what I would like to know and what I'm interested. No more ! Honestly !

But I told this already. It's weird to hear stories about Eurobeat, also the oldest, from guys who never been in Italy, in Japan, never met some important producer, and barely 10 years ago were 20 years old. I browsed forums, I read a lot.

Treat serious artists in all matters.
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