Depressing Eurobeat

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Post by Mindsweeper » 08 Apr 2013, 12:32

Old thread bump.

Casanova - Help Me To Say Goodbye

The lyrics are pretty sad, but the melodies in this song are what really get me. This is the only eurobeat song I've heard so far that immediately struck me as very sad.

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Post by Darkholme » 08 Apr 2013, 12:46

Nice thread!

Gonna go ahead and contribute with Sophie - Same
The song itself is slow and soulful, bordering on dark, but the vocals and lyrics is definitely what gives it the sad vibe. After checking out the lyrics I believe they're either about a love gone real bad or about depression. The chorus does paint a clear picture of depression and "being stuck in a rut." The singer conveys emotions really well through her singing, there's a lot of power in them. I think her name was Christina Sartori.


Happiness so hard to find
We'll never win this game
And tomorrow will be the same
We'll never get to know
We'll never get to say
And tomorrow will be the same

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Post by drnrg » 09 Apr 2013, 09:53

Choosing a melocholic Aishu song sung by Elena Ferretti isn't the greatest challange, but she sings them so beautifully and has so many to choose from.

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Forever Sad- Hely (Eurogrooves)
It's a bit uptemoo in melody, but the soundworlds still have the meloncholic vibe Dall Ora was so masterful at producing.

Two lines from this song really stood.

Alone In heaven everyday
heaven is the last place one would feel lonely, so you really get the feel of how much she misses her significant other. Also it's a sort of mirror image, because if she is the one in Heaven, then she would be the one missed, instead it's the other way around.

Alone Tonight I song and cry
Another sad line full of contrast. Singing is usually joyous, but she will probly be singing a sad llulaby so emotional as to make her cry.

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Post by Darkholme » 09 Apr 2013, 11:30

drnrg wrote:Forever Sad- Hely (Eurogrooves)
Love that track, Ferretti masters the emotional vocals as always. The track that comes afterwards is pretty sad as well, Kasanova - I Remember
Not entirely depressing, but the entire mood of the song isn't exactly joyful. The bridge sounds optimistic and hopeful with "And no more sorrow, lady. Watching tomorrow, baby." but then dips into sadness with "I remember. I used to be your pretender. I can see your crying eyes as music dies. Love is just a feeling"

194 was such a great album :grin:

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Post by UFOPOLI » 09 Apr 2013, 14:21

The previous time I've posted in this thread seems to be four years ago, after which I've given this topic some thought every now and then. I'd say there's also another main reason why eurobeat so rarely comes across as depressing, in addition to the tempo: the supplementary nature of lyrics.

The focus being on composition and arrangement, eurobeat lyrics' primary function is typically to carry the melody and to sound good. Consistency is not required. The aforementioned Yes I Will, for example, would fit the bill of a sad love story, if only it was able to make up its mind what's actually happening. "I'll never leave you"... but then, "I will give up on you"? Wasn't it him who "got to decide"? I do understand the concept of stream of consciousness and that people tend to get incoherent when faced with conflicting emotions but yet, this is more the norm than an exception.

I'd be surprised to meet somebody who listens to eurobeat because of the lyrics :D Conversely, in (especially certain types of) pop, it's not unusual at all for a song to gain popularity because of its text. Having said that, every now and then you come across eurobeat lyrics that tell coherent and depressing stories. There are also sad love stories that make sense. One of my favorites is Denise's Burning Like a Flame (even though personally I think jealousy is just stupid in general) with its powerful statement "I was dying inside me, jealousy is a killer / You killed everything in me".

Daniel's Frontal Impact represents another kind of a dramatic story with a strong atmosphere. Without the opening line I'd be sure it was about how time slows down in your mind when you're in a traffic accident. My favorite line is the last of the chorus, "Seems I'm watching just myself that dies", possibly refering to an out-of-body experience.

A more random find, Rick Wild's Fight for Your Life is quite depressing as well: "He looks up at the sky and he shouts 'why' / Then the police shoot him down / And before he dies, he stumbles and cries".
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Post by drnrg » 10 Apr 2013, 04:14

UFOPOLI
I'd be surprised to meet somebody who listens to eurobeat because of the lyrics
You would be surprised to know that before internet data bases, SEB booklets ect.. I used to sit around listening to my vinyls just to get the lyrics. I mean, I was 16-17 back then and later found out I was wrong about half of those lyrics, but I had a ball trying to decipher them back in the day.

I still suck at lyrics without the liner notes. Another reason I buy the cds

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Love that track, Ferretti masters the emotional vocals as always. The track that comes afterwards is pretty sad as well, Kasanova - I Remember .194 was such a great album


Love & Sweets was the theme and one of my favs from that year. Not too many went crazy over it, but I knew Dall Ora's material would shine on that disc and he featured 4 songs. :D Valentin's Day and All I Want Is You were also top game tracks on that cd. I'm glad more members enjoyed it.

I seriously miss EUROGROOVES :(

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Post by Darkholme » 10 Apr 2013, 12:07

drnrg wrote:Love & Sweets was the theme and one of my favs from that year. Not too many went crazy over it, but I knew Dall Ora's material would shine on that disc and he featured 4 songs. :D Valentin's Day and All I Want Is You were also top game tracks on that cd. I'm glad more members enjoyed it.

I seriously miss EUROGROOVES :(
Oh man, Valentine's Day is easily top 3 for me on 194. I remember there was a special mega-mix at the start of the album, about 7 minutes long. I love listening to that mix, it summarizes the album really well and the transitions are wonderful :grin:

Anyway, another sad track would probably be Kevin Johnson - Crime of Passion

I think it's about a guy sleeping with a girl, then realizing that she loves him while he doesn't reciprocate her feelings, so he hates himself for making a Crime of Passion. I wish I had a better turntable so I could rip the vinyl with better sound quality :cry:

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Post by UFOPOLI » 11 Apr 2013, 08:00

drnrg wrote:UFOPOLI
I'd be surprised to meet somebody who listens to eurobeat because of the lyrics
You would be surprised to know that before internet data bases, SEB booklets ect.. I used to sit around listening to my vinyls just to get the lyrics.


No, I wouldn't. That wasn't the point. I'm very much interested in finding out the lyrics myself but... the point is that I don't think anybody chooses to listen to eurobeat because of the lyrics. There are a few (but not many) EB tracks that I've graded with an extra star or a half because I really like the lyrics but none that I'd listen to even if I didn't like the song otherwise, whereas in some other genres the lyrics sometimes are the thing.
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Post by drnrg » 11 Apr 2013, 08:14

UFOPOLI
No, I wouldn't. That wasn't the point. I'm very much interested in finding out the lyrics myself but... the point is that I don't think anybody chooses to listen to eurobeat because of the lyrics. There are a few (but not many) EB tracks that I've graded with an extra star or a half because I really like the lyrics but none that I'd listen to even if I didn't like the song otherwise, whereas in some other genres the lyrics sometimes are the thing.
For me the lyrics; especially when they are really meaningful or carry a theme are a bonus, because, like you say; the first thing that comes to mind with Eurobeat is the music. Vocals would follow in my case and then in third place would fall the lyrics. I know this, beacuse I can tra- la-lal my way thru a Eurobeat song pretending to know the lyrics, but really getting into the that riff :D


This is a song very uptempo, but also speaks of a serious loss. Listen to lyrics. It's also a very good Bonini song.

Nando- Back In Black (DELTA)

Here I am, look at me (a) little changed, but it's me
Back again, that's for real, hungry for action
Years ago, people know, I've lost my little babe
Suddenly, passed away when I was on tour

Every thing I'll make
I want it dedicated to my darling
Every note I'll play
Will be for my sweet heart
So now I say

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Post by Darkholme » 13 Apr 2013, 23:31

Candy Taylor - Scandal

Sounds a lot like Killing My Love, but is a bit darker IMO. Clara's voice sounds softer and desperate and it makes the song very convincing. Lyrics are clearly about some kind of high-profile forbidden love, but she throws something else into the mix with these lines

I see the world is falling down on you
Shooting at you
I'd never wanted to kill the man kill the
man I love
But I got to do what is right for me


As well as

Got to do to you what you did to me

What actually happened is mystery :o

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Post by drnrg » 14 Apr 2013, 02:08

Darkholme
I see the world is falling down on you
Shooting at you
I'd never wanted to kill the man kill the
man I love
But I got to do what is right for me

As well as

Got to do to you what you did to me

What actually happened is mystery
I think it's symolic. You can also "kill" a person by being unfaithful, breaking thier heart. The song is about a scandal. maybe he had an affair with someone and now she does the same to him, causing that scandal. I don't actually think she kills him; though that could also cause a scandal, but then she would be singing the song from her jail cell. :wink:

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Post by Darkholme » 14 Apr 2013, 09:23

[quote="drnrg"I think it's symolic. You can also "kill" a person by being unfaithful, breaking thier heart. The song is about a scandal. maybe he had an affair with someone and now she does the same to him, causing that scandal. I don't actually think she kills him; though that could also cause a scandal, but then she would be singing the song from her jail cell. :wink:[/quote]

Maybe there's recording equipment in prison :D

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