New Label From Italy ~ Akyr Music ~

[Jayveemon]

How did that go?

[Vadim]

what do you think about puttting songs on digital shop as iTunes and others similars?

Go for it.

[Jjb]

to be honest,I had talk today with a digital distribution company...

While I'm not sure how others feel, and don't know much about the business end of it.

Seriousily consider before buying into a propriety (DRM/locked) format, look at @music, that's a nice service but the songs are VERY low quality, and the files are restricted WMA that you can't even put on a CD.

WMA forces you to use windows media player

iTunes forces you to use... iTunes, an i-pod, or to waste a CD-R.

I use neither of these programs, and while arguably protected formats prevent "theft", you end up punishing your legitimate customers. who may not primarily use media player or iTunes, or just want to listen to the song on their portable MP3 player.

Most of the @Music customers I knew (including myself) would have to simply make poor re-recordings of the songs to enjoy them, depressing for something you just paid $2 for.

Bravo to saifam for going with modest quality MP3s, that's where my free funds are going when saifam can release some of the newer material on there.

[Cosmic_Bard]

No one can 'force' you into a media format. They're all interchangeable, yknow. It's as simple as using audio editing software and re-saving the file as a different format.

If everythng goes well, there shouldn't be any loss in quality.

[Jjb]

No one can 'force' you into a media format. They're all interchangeable, yknow. It's as simple as using audio editing software and re-saving the file as a different format.

If everythng goes well, there shouldn't be any loss in quality.

Ever listen to a Hi-NRG Attack song from @Music? yeah ... 128kbit WMA is not "CD" quality, at all ... barely FM radio quality, and re-compressing it to mp3 (I compare it to saving a gif as a jpg), depending on the circumstances can make it sound even worse, it isn't a perfect process at all.

Everyone's ears and perception are different though, and while eurobeat isn't exactly classical music, I don't like it when all the neat subtle background synths are bleeding together, etc.

When everything is nice and crisp (e.g. in high bitrate MP3s, lossless, or off a CD), it's much more enjoyable ... but I'm probably a minority in my "sensitivity" to digital sound in this regard, or maybe just crazy.

[Jayveemon]

Maybe for you it's not good enough but the majority just wants a version good enough to enjoy the song and aren't so anal about quality and I've heard rips from @music and they just sound fine. And consumer demands and download speed ARE plausible because if they have tons of people downloading large files all at once their won't be enough bandwidth for everyone. So just because it's not best for you doesn't mean it's not what's best for the provider so just be grateful that avex even released extended version of song at all because you know they are under no obligation to do so.

[Jjb]

Maybe for you it's not good enough but the majority just wants a version good enough to enjoy the song and aren't so anal about quality and I've heard rips from @music and they just sound fine. And consumer demands and download speed ARE plausible because if they have tons of people downloading large files all at once their won't be enough bandwidth for everyone. So just because it's not best for you doesn't mean it's not what's best for the provider so just be grateful that avex even released extended version of song at all because you know they are under no obligation to do so.

Yeah I know I sound pretty anal

But I just thought I'd express my opinion, I'm sure the people at akyr, being in both the music and business side of things have considered the pros/cons of mp3/open format vs. wma/itunes/etc.

(Though. I find it interesting that, the response to protected files is "eh i'll just convert it to mp3", making a point of how pointless it is, and just hurts the integrity of the song)

The @Music exclusive stuff just really bothers me, it's a shame some of those songs are locked away in low quality/protected files, when they deserve better, so to speak ... i'd hate to see the same thing happen to future material, but I can sort of feel how the business side wants to protect their work on the big scary internet, too.

[newfield]

ok,I'm gonna take care about your wishes.

webmaster,seems Akyrmusic topic got a lot of hits.Whatcha waiting for add me to your links?

Newfield

I did eurobeat
I do eurobeat
I will do eurobeat

[Cosmic_Bard]

I've never had a problem with audio at 128k. I think anything more than that is a waste of space.

[jeurobeat]

Hi,

Everyone's ears and perception are different though, and while eurobeat isn't exactly classical music, I don't like it when all the neat subtle background synths are bleeding together, etc.

When everything is nice and crisp (e.g. in high bitrate MP3s, lossless, or off a CD), it's much more enjoyable ... but I'm probably a minority in my "sensitivity" to digital sound in this regard, or maybe just crazy.

Maybe so, but I can only agree with you! So I'm with the same minority. With a set of good speakers or headphones, the difference of low or high mp3 bitrate is easily noticable, and I enjoy good sound quality much more!

[Nine]

newfield - will you be planning to have Clara sing for your new label, or will her vocals be soley kept for Delta's sound?

[Ricfiam]

I've never had a problem with audio at 128k. I think anything more than that is a waste of space.

Do you?
than you need to buy a hi-fi system, or come to me, I can show you things...
128k mp3 is not more than shit.
I buy the SEB and the Livemusic cds, I order the songs from Saifam with "compilation on demand" just for enjoy the pure music without compress and lost frequency.

[newfield]

from the producer side an mp3 sound very different from original mix.
Stereo panning is wider and there is a big loss of bass freq.,even lead vocals sounds lower,and I don't think you can hear the 20kHz eq. we do on the mastering.
An mp3 is around 4-5 Mb of data,original Aiff or Wav mix is 50-60Mb...think about that!

someone asked again about Clara singing for me...she's Delta exclusive.
Ask Domino if she's available!!

[Jjb]

from the producer side an mp3 sound very different from original mix.
Stereo panning is wider and there is a big loss of bass freq.,even lead vocals sounds lower,and I don't think you can hear the 20kHz eq. we do on the mastering.
An mp3 is around 4-5 Mb of data,original Aiff or Wav mix is 50-60Mb...think about that!

Yeah, exactly.

What MP3 encoder did you guys test (very important factor)? newer versions of "LAME" produce very faithful copies (see: here & here), but even they can fall short of the orignals.

But I'm very happy to see you guys are concerned about sound quality, many many online audio services neglect this. I wish you good luck on finding a compromise.

Heh, maybe you could offer "DJ" downloads at a high premium, which would be the master wavs/aiffs, but I probably wouldn't be able to afford it :P

[Ronald]

from the producer side an mp3 sound very different from original mix.
Stereo panning is wider and there is a big loss of bass freq.,even lead vocals sounds lower,and I don't think you can hear the 20kHz eq. we do on the mastering.
An mp3 is around 4-5 Mb of data,original Aiff or Wav mix is 50-60Mb...think about that!

someone asked again about Clara singing for me...she's Delta exclusive.
Ask Domino if she's available!!

Your the man I like Great music (compliments for Eurofunk and Nando + Madison on SEB 161, I know perhaps old tracks but for me outstanding quality), lots of interesting info and humor (Domino).
By the way Laurent you have to change your profile .... wrong internet site
A couple questions (if you don't mind):
1). which people are involved in AKYR music? I mean producers, writers, vocals (male & female). And perhaps any extra mastering, mixing personal (like RAF at D.R), administration people behind the scene (like Contini at D.R)?
2). concept of creation of AKYR productions. Is it the same like the DELTA structure. Create in your own studio. Perhaps vocals and / or mastering and final deleviry to Japan by mail thru out a main studio.
3). is main distribution like LIVE MUSIC does now (CD's or perhaps MP3 - Itunes something to consider for the future?
4). was going for yourself with the right people with the same idea's and creatifity and energy something you always wanted?

And last but not least I wish you the best. I know it will work out. Looking the way you treat your fans with the presence on this forum. And the knowledge of lots of years of Italo/Eurobeat sounds created by your mixmaster hands gives me a very good feeling that it will be something extremely good. Also the coorperation with Davide di Marcantonio is something really good (and ofcourse all the others).
Wow man, listening to the different labels and there typical sounds I can only say that it's good for the custumors! The only missing part is ... the extended work. But maybe that will change ... I hope ... one day.
Okay Laurent keep the Eurobeat train running!
Your one of the best!

Arriverdeci!

Ronald.

P.s: your label needs some promo work on the IVENTI radio show, perhaps an interview with Marcello would be an idea?