Delta Catalogue Updated

[oresama-chan]

Hmmm, what about Van T.K.? He seems to have always been Paul Harris... and unless those Van T.K. songs released in the SEB 150-160 are quite old... then it seems he also bounces around labels Delta, SCP and now Akyr.

So, Van T.K. is the exceptional case of Luca.

The A Beat C thing, would this only apply to solo alias'? As Elena Gobbi has been Lolita, Virginelle, Go Go Girls, King & Queen, Groove Twins and Happy Hours in the past two or so years.

Hmm...yeah, we'd have to treat group projects as an exception.
You can be a member of Sydney swiming club, Sydney body building club,
Sydney tea ceremony club and Sydney citizen's band at the same time.
Besides A-Beat C's group projects were originally clearly specified to
be composed of existing artists (e.g. King & Queen feat. Queen Of Times,
Robert Stone, Norma Sheffield and Annalise, Go Go Girls feat. Annalise
and Virginelle) differently from other labels' likes.

When did they make this declaration? Is that all they said, or did they give any explanation?

I've read in some interview with Dave Rodgers, where he was claiming
that their artists are all real artists or someting.

Tomas Marin used to sing under several aliases like Mega NRG Man,
Derreck Simon, Mr. Groove, Vito, Mike Skanner, but he is
entirely Mega NRG Man in these years.

[UQ100]

When did they make this declaration? Is that all they said, or did they give any explanation?

I've read in some interview with Dave Rodgers, where he was claiming
that their artists are all real artists or someting.

Well, unless EB producers aren't human, I think we can say that all EB tracks are _created_ by real artists.

[oresama-chan]

You are so mean to me!

Hmm...no, no, It seemd to me that he was claiming the other labels' artists were not real artists.

[UQ100]

You are so mean to me!

Hey, it was supposed to be a shot at the sort of people that don't like EB! (Because it doesn't have "real artists".)

Hmm...no, no, It seemd to me that he was claiming the other labels' artists were not real artists.

LOL...

[jeurobeat]

Hmm...no, no, It seemd to me that he was claiming the other labels' artists were not real artists.

Wasn't the question about speeding up the singing, as EB is fast sometimes... and then he replied something like "I don't know what other labels do, but our artists are real". I didn't think he suggested that other labels were fake.

[Sadie]

No, I have no idea what agreement A-Beat C has with their vocalists, or even whether such an agreement is made between them in the first
place, but as you know, they declare their policy that their artists must
be "real artists". (I don't get the concept of "real arist" yet, though)

Hmm...no, no, It seemd to me that he was claiming the other labels' artists were not real artists.

Wasn't the question about speeding up the singing, as EB is fast sometimes... and then he replied something like "I don't know what other labels do, but our artists are real". I didn't think he suggested that other labels were fake.

From what I've read in this topic, it seems that the term 'real artist' refers to a vocalist at A-Beat C, according to Giancarlo Pasquini, who's voice hasn't been sped up or altered (aside from maybe an intro or a short time throughout the song).

[Shawaazu]

Hmmm, what about Van T.K.? He seems to have always been Paul Harris... and unless those Van T.K. songs released in the SEB 150-160 are quite old... then it seems he also bounces around labels Delta, SCP and now Akyr.

So, Van T.K. is the exceptional case of Luca.

OPPS! I read Luca as Lucya @_@ SORRY!

Tomas Marin used to sing under several aliases like Mega NRG Man, Derreck Simon, Mr. Groove, Vito, Mike Skanner, but he is entirely Mega NRG Man in these years.

Heh, I've always thought it was because, he sings as DJ Zorro so much now that he doesn't have time to sing as many Eurobeat songs, so they all go to Mega NRG Man now.

[oresama-chan]

Wasn't the question about speeding up the singing, as EB is fast sometimes... and then he replied something like "I don't know what other labels do, but our artists are real". I didn't think he suggested that other labels were fake.

Ahh, that's it!
http://eurokdj.free.fr/interviews/aleph_interview.htm

It's absolutely wrong, I don't need any "technological hands"
cause I work only with professional artist. If you only could see one of my or
my artists, concerts, you could hear with your own ears that's true. I don't
know about what the other labels do.

It looks like that I read too much into his comment cuz I know Robert
Patton was performed by C. Magnani and Niko was performed by Edo
Arlenghi and so on.

[drnrg]

it does get rather confusing. The concept of labels and thier vocalists. For those of you who remember. FLEA? It seems like Giani Coraini and Gino Caria were at both TIME and Flea in 1991-1992 and Gino also at AbeatC. Plus Sergio Dall Ora also had Havanna studios at Flea.Here are ex:
Gino Caria.
Al Morse- Someone Sombody(FLEA)
Toby Ash- Go Go Rock Me(TIME)
Mike Scanner- Honesty(ABeatC)
All in 1992

Nando Bonini
Tension- You Got me Going Crazy(TIME)
Roby- Bring Your Love back(Styl Novo)

Giani Coraini
Dave Cole- Space Desire(FLEA)
Danny Kieth- One More Time(TIME)

That is not to mention Clara who was doing voacls everywhere in 1990
TIME
High Energy
Disco Energy
Asia
FCF
Flea?
I think AbeatC is the only label she hasn't sung on(I'm talking about the original major labels)

[oresama-chan]

Nah, Clara did back-up vocals on "Too Young To Fall In Love", "Bombers",
"Tokyo Tokyo" and duetted on...uh....I forgot and I'm too lazy now to search
the two duet songs.

[jeurobeat]

Nah, Clara did back-up vocals on "Too Young To Fall In Love", "Bombers",
"Tokyo Tokyo" and duetted on...uh....I forgot and I'm too lazy now to search
the two duet songs.

You probably mean my personal A-beat-favorite: Kick At My Heart - Groove Twins!

[UQ100]

I think it's time to list some techniques for recording vocals, some people might call them "cheating":

1) "Comping" (compiling): do lots of takes, keep only the best bits of each, say edit on a line by line basis, but this could even mean editing right down to one vowel sound or something and (carefully!) crossfading between takes. (Each take doesn't have to be the whole track.)
2) If the singer is not so great, backing vocals to the max. (Real or digitally generated--problems with altering voice (see above post linking to clips of voice processing) less obvious with background parts.) It could even be that a backing vocalist actually sings the "lead" as well throughout the track, but aren't credited, then mix the two together to thicken things up. (That's called "ghosting".)
(Note that I'm talking about using more backing vocals to cover up a less able singer, not the use of them per se.)
3) Double tracking: get the singer to sing the same line twice over, or use automatic double tracking (back in the day, copy to another tape and play the copy with a varying pitch difference)... or use (digital) vocal thickening processing.
4) The usual studio FX/processing: chorus, excitation, etc.
5) Pitch correction. (Of the more subtle kind, not so much that "Cher effect"-type sounds happen!)

Bottom line is, whichever way you look at it, vocals on (excluding classical, etc.) records aren't at all "natural."

[UQ100]

Wasn't the question about speeding up the singing, as EB is fast sometimes... and then he replied something like "I don't know what other labels do, but our artists are real". I didn't think he suggested that other labels were fake.

Ahh, that's it!
http://eurokdj.free.fr/interviews/aleph_interview.htm

I wonder how this guy managed to get hold of some of these people for interviews. His interview with Tom Hooker is quite interesting!

[oresama-chan]

I've always thought it was because, he sings as DJ Zorro so much now that he doesn't have time to sing as many Eurobeat songs, so they all go to Mega NRG Man now.

While it takes only a couple of hours to record one song? If he is also
required to compose songs, that makes sense, though.
http://www.soniaontheweb.com/daverodgers.html

You probably mean my personal A-beat-favorite: Kick At My Heart - Groove Twins!

Yes! That's one of them and the other is Love Bang Bang.

I think it's time to list some techniques for recording vocals, some people might call them "cheating"

I'm afraid you got the wrong thread to post it on. It was fun to read that, though.

[UQ100]

I think it's time to list some techniques for recording vocals, some people might call them "cheating"

I'm afraid you got the wrong thread to post it on. It was fun to read that, though.

I did...? Sorry... it just seems it's a persistent theme here about pitching vocals and "faking" them, I thought it might be interesting to say what some often used methods for "cheating" are.