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Post by Nine » 27 Jul 2010, 04:30

Mikaeru wrote:Keeping in mind I haven't heard it before on Juno or anything like that, is it just me, or does In Your Arms *REALLY* sound a lot like an older song, but I can't put my finger on what song exactly. Almost like Stay by Victoria, or something else from that era, but just listening to the sample for In Your Arms, I wanted to start singing a different song, but can't place it.
It reminds me of another song too... I can't pinpoint it. :(
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Post by Lexi Rinale » 27 Jul 2010, 05:52

In My Arms sounds almost similar to When I Close My Eyes to me.

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Post by vinyl12 » 27 Jul 2010, 13:06

HI-NRG ATTACK seems to be going to change their production style. On The Top Again sounds like materials from Eurobeat Flash era.

Louder & Faster is from Sun Fire Records not A-BEAT C.......then why they needed to establish a new label?

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Post by the_ditz » 27 Jul 2010, 15:01

vinyl12 wrote:Louder & Faster is from Sun Fire Records not A-BEAT C.......then why they needed to establish a new label?
Good point - perhaps Dave just needed a new label to showcase his return to the old-school Eurobeat sound. I love the small section of the hook that you can hear in the sample of Louder & Faster, and the overall production harks back to the glory days of A-Beat C.

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Post by Javy » 27 Jul 2010, 15:29

After listening to the samples... Looks like another SEB for me to pirate instead of buy. Almost every song sounded bad to me. Especially HiNRG,Saifam and Dima. Why doesn't Avex rename the series to Super Eurodance and get it over with.
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Post by the_ditz » 27 Jul 2010, 16:22

What is your beef with Dima anyway? You always diss them but rarely give a reason. Are you really trying to say that the sample for the Momo track is better than Aleky? Were you listening to the same samples?

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Post by Lebon14 » 27 Jul 2010, 16:32

the_ditz wrote:What is your beef with Dima anyway? You always diss them but rarely give a reason.
Javy's signature wrote:DarkSky - The Official Dick Sucker Of David Dima!
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Post by the_ditz » 27 Jul 2010, 16:35

Lebon14 wrote:
the_ditz wrote:What is your beef with Dima anyway? You always diss them but rarely give a reason.
Javy's signature wrote:DarkSky - The Official Dick Sucker Of David Dima!
Maybe this?
That makes no sense at all. Just because a member of this forum became a member of the Dima Music staff and (sometimes too) vigorously promoted the label every day doesn't mean that you instantly hate every track the label produces.

I want to know why you believe every song that they've produced in recent times has been so terrible.

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Post by para_rigby » 27 Jul 2010, 18:22

the_ditz wrote:
Lebon14 wrote:
the_ditz wrote:What is your beef with Dima anyway? You always diss them but rarely give a reason.
Javy's signature wrote:DarkSky - The Official Dick Sucker Of David Dima!
Maybe this?
That makes no sense at all. Just because a member of this forum became a member of the Dima Music staff and (sometimes too) vigorously promoted the label every day doesn't mean that you instantly hate every track the label produces.

I want to know why you believe every song that they've produced in recent times has been so terrible.
I'd like to know as well....but not being nasty in asking. You've pretty much slammed Delta and Dima in the recent past and just wanting your opinion as to why, myself.

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Post by drnrg » 27 Jul 2010, 19:29

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After listening to the samples... Looks like another SEB for me to pirate instead of buy. Almost every song sounded bad to me. Especially HiNRG,Saifam and Dima. Why doesn't Avex rename the series to Super Eurodance and get it over with.
I don't think any of those labels have ever given him a hard on. Come to think of it ; what label does? Sinclaire Style? I have a few friends who only like one label and will download a whole cd just for that one ABeatC song and then turn around and deleet the rest. Anyway, I'm not gonna lose any sleep weather he likes them or not. :P SomeTIMES it's nice to know why members prefer one label over another. being Vocals, soundworlds, whatever, but he could just as well not like the name of the label and that would be suffice for me. Besides it's not only him, but a few members have been dismissing the post 200s sound rather quickly.

I'm probobly one of the minoraty; but I'm actually enjoying this era a bit more than the late 100s, because of all the different styles and slower bpms and I actually like the showcase on some of the other underdog
labels like, HRG, Saifam, Dima. I'm kinda pissed on the lack of Eurogrooves. I really don't know what's going on there, but for the most part I rather like these new cds in my collection.

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Louder & Faster is from Sun Fire Records not A-BEAT C.......then why they needed to establish a new label?
This is good news. New era, new name= new sound. It also happened with TIME to Eurogrooves. I always kinda thought Newfield was trying for similiar change with Akyr, but anyway. I guess now we can expect some new fresh material from Dave & Co. I only wish a change like this would mean new fresh artists as well.

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Post by Javy » 27 Jul 2010, 19:39

the_ditz wrote:What is your beef with Dima anyway? You always diss them but rarely give a reason. Are you really trying to say that the sample for the Momo track is better than Aleky? Were you listening to the same samples?
I have no beef with Dima. I LOVE his older stuff but with the exception of Eternity and the Mr Moog track from 201 everything since 193 has been boring and stale sounding. I see Dima as a joke now. Everything from Dima now sounds cookie cutter made to order. Maybe if he would stop sucking Avex's cock maybe he'd get better. Yes the Momo track IS Better than Aleky's track. I also don't think Aleky is the amazing vocalist you all seem to think she is At least it sounds like eurobeat. And DrNRG I looove Saifam. Them, HRG and LED were the first eurobeat stuff I've ever heard and loved. So for them to sound so terrible breaks my hearts. As for slamming Delta, it was never Delta as a whole but just Newfield. You can definitely find quotes of me loving tracks by Capaldi and Cipro Sandrini. Also I am a bit buggered there are no new Delta and Eurogroove tracks on this release.
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Post by the_ditz » 27 Jul 2010, 20:09

Fair enough, thanks for taking the time to explain. At least now we can try to understand a bit better why you dislike his newer material. Personally, I think the opposite - his older tracks from the LED and Vibration days were far more cookie cutter than his newer material to my ears.

But hey, I guess that's why the Super Eurobeat series has a collection of labels, so that at least there is something for everyone. :)

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Post by drnrg » 27 Jul 2010, 20:42

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And DrNRG I looove Saifam. Them, HRG and LED were the first eurobeat stuff I've ever heard and loved. So for them to sound so terrible breaks my hearts.
This brought up an interesting point. As much as I'm digging the new/old Saifam style; I still really miss The Bad Worlds and Hurricanes of the Boom Boom Beat era. Yeah, there is no camparing the old Vibration sound to Dima's new, but back then the songs had a much more raw sound. Some might say amatuer, but many TIMEs less is more. I think about Led's Gino Caria days; Flippin Out, Diablo Man, Big Mig. Foggetaboutit :P

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8. FLASH & LOVE
- I really don't like this song very much at all. The melody just doesn't light my fire - it's a bit weedy, and sounds like a bad Kylie B-side from the 80's. This is the rubbish that Christine used to get...
what do you mean? I remeber great songs from her like, Story Of My Life, Crazy Generation, Into The Light, and esp. Love Is Magic. or which are you talking of in particular.

oh, and I heard some of those songs you mentioned. None of them remind me of these previews at all. The percusion is different, they lack a proper Eurobeat intro and there is no bridge to the chorus. Thier riffs aren't half as exciting as Eurobeat's and the productions are so damn simple. probobly why I never cared for that style to begin with. Solid Base wasn't bad, but the overall compostion is nothing like Eurobeat .That Perfect Melody song practically put me to sleep. ToyBox is a straighht out Aqua rippoff and IMOP; I always though this type of music was somehow mocking Eurobeat with those spoken lines and nonexsistant choruses. Take Dall Ora's remake of "Barbi Girl"; for instance, and it still sounds more aggressive than say; that Tarzan & Jane song. I couldn't even find the group Soda on youtube, but I imagine something like Aqua too.

I'm even more confused than ever when I see some of you guys compare Eurobeat to Eurodance :???: I will say this.Those La Cream videos are what I would call perfect for a Eurobeat female song. Just mute the sound and play Eurobeat in thebackround and see what I mean. Tess. Oh my :wink:

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Post by the_ditz » 27 Jul 2010, 20:59

drnrg wrote:ditz
8. FLASH & LOVE
- I really don't like this song very much at all. The melody just doesn't light my fire - it's a bit weedy, and sounds like a bad Kylie B-side from the 80's. This is the rubbish that Christine used to get...
what do you mean? I remeber great songs from her like, Story Of My Life, Crazy Generation, Into The Light, and esp. Love Is Magic. or which are you talking of in particular.

oh, and I heard some of those songs you mentioned. None of them remind me of these previews at all. The percusion is different, they lack a proper Eurobeat intro and there is no bridge to the chorus. Thier riffs aren't half as exciting as Eurobeat's and the productions are so damn simple. probobly why I never cared for that style to begin with. Solid Base wasn't bad, but the overall compostion is nothing like Eurobeat .That Perfect Melody song practically put me to sleep. ToyBox is a straighht out Aqua rippoff and IMOP; I always though this type of music was somehow mocking Eurobeat with those spoken lines and nonexsistant choruses. Take Dall Ora's remake of "Barbi Girl"; for instance, and it still sounds more aggressive than say; that Tarzan & Jane song. I couldn't even find the group Soda on youtube, but I imagine something like Aqua too.

I'm even more confused than ever when I see some of you guys compare Eurobeat to Eurodance :???:
Okay, first of all I've never really been a Christine fan. I don't particularly like the tone of her voice, and the only half decent tracks she released were Yeah! and Viva La Noche. Probably more specifically when I mentioned the rubbish she used to get, I was referring to Summer Ski.

As for the comparisons to Eurodance, I can clearly hear in my head the similarities between certain tracks from this album and songs I have grown up with from the Eurodance world. Granted, the percussion is different, and the various layers in the background are normally a bit more simplistic, but the core melodies and style of singing (especially in Aleky's case) is just so reminiscent of 90's bubblegum vocalists to my ears. The two most specific examples I can think of are Bambee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnvlJUJ5fUc) and Soda (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF5OSDQnLx8). Even if you don't pay attention to the production, just listen to the female vocals and melodies - the Aleky track has a very similar spirit to it.

Not sure if that really helped to explain it or not. At the end of the day, we will all probably try to find ways to relate modern releases to the old music that we grew up listening to. So where I'll hear Eurodance or Bubblegum influences, you'll probably be more likely to hear Italo and Hi-NRG.

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Post by drnrg » 27 Jul 2010, 21:48

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As for the comparisons to Eurodance, I can clearly hear in my head the similarities between certain tracks from this album and songs I have grown up with from the Eurodance world. Granted, the percussion is different, and the various layers in the background are normally a bit more simplistic, but the core melodies and style of singing (especially in Aleky's case) is just so reminiscent of 90's bubblegum vocalists to my ears. The two most specific examples I can think of are Bambee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnvlJUJ5fUc) and Soda (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF5OSDQnLx8). Even if you don't pay attention to the production, just listen to the female vocals and melodies - the Aleky track has a very similar spirit to it.
Ok. after hearing those two videos, I do agree. Vocalwise you have a point. Like I said; the songs are not 100% abysmal, infact I'm wondering if any of you have tried to make a Eurobeat remix of one of these songs? That Spaceman song has a good Eurobeat melody and Space effects. I'm wondering if any of you can make it possible to drown out that horrible percussion and remix in some Eurobeat style percussion like Dima or preferably Eurogrooves. I remeber some of those TIME remixes done to Boom Boom Boom - Venga Boys and liking it 100% better than the original. 8)

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