Producers of EUROBEAT - Please HELP ME`

[sirocco]

i have listened to many eurobeat songs and there is the same type of lead synthesizer line in the overwhelming majorly of tracks!!
i have posted some clips below...maybe someone can tell me what synthesizer its from or how to make it..i tried detuning saw waves but it doesnt sound the same! someone must know, right??! many thanks!!

http://www.sonicspecialists.com/sample1.mp3
http://www.sonicspecialists.com/sample2.mp3
http://www.sonicspecialists.com/sample3.mp3
http://www.sonicspecialists.com/sample4.mp3
http://www.sonicspecialists.com/sample5.mp3
http://www.sonicspecialists.com/sample6.mp3
http://www.sonicspecialists.com/sample7.mp3

[Mikaeru]

Sorry if this comes out rude, but go down the page a bit, and you'll see pretty much the same topic.

It depends on the song, and who's behind the song.

[sirocco]

i already checked that topic but i did not get a concrete response when i looked in

just people tip-toeing around the subject..anyything u can share!?!

[Mikaeru]

Again, nothing that hasn't really been already said. Your best bet would be to find something you like, learn it well and use that. Newfield seems to be a huge DX7/FM7 fan. SCP tends to use virtual analogue.

Both SCP (Ritmo e Blu) and A-Beat C have gear lists on their sites, although both lists are out of date. Dima also has a gear list, but I'm not sure how recent that is either. And none of that takes into account soft synths.

The main recommended soft synths that seem to come up are Native Instrument's FM7 (and now FM8), Rob Papen's Albino, ReFX's Vanguard and I personally like Superwave's Superwave Trance Pro. Also, Garageband seems to have a ton of synths with it, but I'm a lowly pc user, so I can't really say much about that.

I'd say get one of the latter three I mentioned, (Those three seem to try and emulate analog synths, while FM7/8 is FM synthesis which, while very powerful if you can use it well, isn't terribly intuitive (for me, anyways). The virtual analog ones are a bit easier to tweak and know what you're doing.) play around with it more, maybe you'll find a sound that's even better than in the samples.

And also don't forget that it isn't just the synth itself, but effects upon the synth too. Which is a whole other story.

[sirocco]

thanks a lot..u got any tips on how to get the notes to transition like on most tracks...i think its called portamento or maybe combined with something else?

[Mikaeru]

erm, well... as least as far as I know how to use it (keep in mind through all of this that I have no illusions of greatness, I'm still learning this whole thing, and though I'm happy to help as far as I can, my own knowledge is rather limited), if you set the instrument/patch in question to portamento, and mono mode, if you hold down a note, all futher notes will sort of pitch shift from it, to a speed you set somewhere else, depending on the synth. Really cool effect.

[sirocco]

yes, i did this with the synth i bought, cakewalk's rapture. it really has some great starting points in the "trance" patches...just needs some editing

thanks a lot