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Post by the_ditz » 04 Sep 2006, 18:38

Just to clarify some of these points...

1) Take the vocals in this version solely to get the idea of the melody - I wasn't trying to sound great and I had a bit of a sore thought as well (as you can hear at "think twice")

2) What do you mean by the transition to the chorus - the actual beats themselves or the instrumentation on the whole?

3) This is the way the original singer pronounces "perfect li-i-ife" - I think it sounds odd to try and blend the vowel sounds together at that part, as you lose the accent on the note fluctuation (if that makes any sense to anyone!) It's also perhaps slightly more noticeable cos of my Scottish accent :lol:

4) If you're talking about the "chance - chance - chance..." echo, I wasn't sure about that at all - it was just an idea I had that didn't fully work as well as I'd hoped...

But anyway, thanks for the comments. Just so everyone else knows, I'm a lot more interested in what you think of the backing track and arrangement, as the vocals will definitely 100% change for the better ;)

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Post by UQ100 » 25 Sep 2006, 06:20

oresama-chan wrote:I made this one with a free midi sequencer, so only 6 tracks were used,
and it has no riff. It's very cheesy. :lol:

I wonder if anyone could develop it...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ay60h3
This sort of thing, basic DOA-style...?

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 7660C90339

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Post by oresama-chan » 25 Sep 2006, 14:52

Heh, nice going. I feel British NRG. :lol:

Glad to see you're alive. :twisted:
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Post by Cosmic_Bard » 25 Sep 2006, 20:46

Huh.

Ditz, despite your claim to having sub-par vocals due to a cold, I think you did an amazing job with this... even though I've never heard the original before. Could you maybe post a sample?

I know it's still very preliminary, but the first thing I notice about the production is how your vocals come out WAY too loud. Of course, fiddling with volume settings is always a neverending chore when you're creating a song, but I think it should certainly be near the top of your list of things to look at.

Like you said, you're not done with the vocals yet, but I hope you've considered a heavier set of vocal effects... your voice comes out a little too flatly.

The production could use some stronger percussive samples... I can't hear much of a bass drum and the hi-hat sounds a bit... well, synthetic, I suppose is the word. Good drum samples can make or break an EDM song.

Other than these few minor gripes, I thought it was really great and above all, an excellent start.

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Post by UQ100 » 27 Sep 2006, 00:11

oresama-chan wrote:Heh, nice going. I feel British NRG. :lol:

Glad to see you're alive. :twisted:
Thanks! I'm here. Good to hear I've not been forgotten. :)

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Post by Nine » 27 Sep 2006, 01:55

the_ditz - I like the music arangement in the song! one of the best i've heard from a fan-made song.

as for the vocals; I do know you've said they will be 100% different - but in the final I would like to see (or, more like hear, haha) harmonized vocals; i think that would fit pretty nice in this song. I didn't like the "chance-chance-chance" part; though if it was more suttle (and maybe, if it alternated from left to right) it would be pretty good.
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the_ditz
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Post by the_ditz » 27 Sep 2006, 11:44

Thanks for all the feedback guys - hopefully I can put all the suggestions you've put forward into action once I get my FL studio fully functional again ;)

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Post by Shinraikan » 28 Sep 2006, 10:47

Oh, I remember this song, Ditz! I was working on a synth for this one, wasn't I? Like, before my PC died. xD

Anyhoo, I want to hear more so I'll definitely try to help you get your FL working in the next few days. ^_^

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Post by Cosmic_Bard » 28 Sep 2006, 13:26

the_ditz wrote:Thanks for all the feedback guys - hopefully I can put all the suggestions you've put forward into action once I get my FL studio fully functional again ;)

Waitasec, are you saying you did this production in FL? That's even more impressive. It's hard to coax decent songs out of that thing. Especially with its disappointing array of samples.
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Post by the_ditz » 28 Sep 2006, 14:12

Yeah, it was totally created in FL Studio - I have to say a massive thank you to Shinraikan for sorting me out with a couple of awesome plugins though, as without them it would sound pretty basic - like Cosmic Bard says, the standard samples you get with it aren't generally of the highest quality...

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Post by Cosmic_Bard » 28 Sep 2006, 20:26

the_ditz wrote:I have to say a massive thank you to Shinraikan for sorting me out with a couple of awesome plugins though
Any chance you can point us to them? ^^;
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Post by Toni » 21 Oct 2006, 20:03

*bump
newfield wrote:I'm thinking about releasing a CD with eurobeat sounds,drum loops etc...and maybe with tutorial,tricks,templates and examples:
"Hey guys,this is the D.R. kick drum!Listen to the Nikophrase sound!
Get a Nord Lead and you get all the Sinclaire sound!"Do a braintransfer to get the Newfield sound!!
Is this still a plan?
But I think I will be shoot by someone!!!
...This would be troublesome...

I'm now finally getting the idea of Logic Express! I've discovered the full synth-sets, but I still lack inspiration...
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Post by sirocco » 25 Oct 2006, 01:31

cool thread - right now im coming from a trance background..and its very similiar in some aspects...right now im working on recreating some leads just for synthesis practice...
...the one im trying to do are the ones in leslie parish - this love - they are gorgeous - one of my favs :D

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Post by MesdoramElmdor » 31 Oct 2006, 01:05

I began working on a Eurobeat track for fun and so far this is what I have.

http://rapidshare.com/files/1366708/Eur ... e.mp3.html

Some feedback and maybe some tips would be cool :D

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Post by sirocco » 31 Oct 2006, 03:24

it sounds not bad...just the melodies are out of key and it sounds a bit odd...also trying eqing ur lead synths so they fit more into the track...im working on some "unqiue and dark" eurobeat.....take a listen and let me know!!

http://www.sonicspecialists.com/vivarmx.mp3

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