Eurobeat Formula Deviations

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Post by wolftickets1969 » 06 Feb 2008, 22:31

Love Spy isn't a eurobeat song in the modern sense; it isn't even made in Italy. It's Hi-NRG(a catch all for italo-disco type music), or German Disco.

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Post by wolftickets1969 » 06 Feb 2008, 22:33

In fact, none of Mike Mareen's songs that I know of follow a Eurobeat type pattern. Mike Mareen=NOT EUROBEAT!

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Post by wolftickets1969 » 07 Feb 2008, 02:40

Big Brother/Dave Rodgers - Wild Reputation. "C-melo", not a true sabi, ie sounds more like a refrain or extension of the b-melo.
O-Zone - Dragostea Din Tei Eurobeat Remix. Long intro with two riffs, two-part sabi, plays sabi B before first main riff.
Rose - Perfect Time 2k7. Sabi before first riff, replays intro as percussion drop(rather than a third a/b melo)
Go Go Girls - I wanna be Fat. Short bridge(not to be confused with b-melo) after second sabi, also, according to the lyrics database, the original/extended version has a third verse(very unusual for eurobeat). Only heard the remix so far, was the original ever released? A similar situation occured with Susan Bell's Music is Love, in which half the lyrics of the second verse were missing from the Euromach edit(instead it does a percussion drop with snippets of the vocals). Too bad we'll probably never hear the original.
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Post by drnrg » 07 Feb 2008, 04:09

wolftickets1969
In fact, none of Mike Mareen's songs that I know of follow a Eurobeat type pattern. Mike Mareen=NOT EUROBEAT!
Love Spy isn't a eurobeat song in the modern sense; it isn't even made in Italy. It's Hi-NRG(a catch all for italo-disco type music), or German Disco
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Mike Mareen- Love Spy(German Hi NRG) Verses jump to chorus ommiting the bridge completely. Plus it has three different verses.
I believe I pointed that out. Infact most of the songs mentioned in this thread are not Eurobeat, but rather Italo Hi NRG. May I also point out that the original O-Zone - Dragostea Din Tei was not Eurobeat either :P

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Post by wolftickets1969 » 07 Feb 2008, 15:24

FCF - Bad desire. No b-melo, short a-melo 2, bridge/interlude("leave me, baby you're getting out). Of course it was a rather early eurobeat song, maybe before the formula became the standard.
Leslie Parrish - Remember Me. Second percussion drop with Intro B after last sabi, replays full intro and synth fadeout as outro(more like Time than Delta).

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Post by Cosmic_Bard » 07 Feb 2008, 15:45

wolftickets1969 wrote:Love Spy isn't a eurobeat song in the modern sense; it isn't even made in Italy. It's Hi-NRG(a catch all for italo-disco type music), or German Disco.
Hi-NRG isn't a 'catch for all italo-disco type music' it is its own distinct genre which appeared after italo-disco but before eurobeat.

Also, being made in a specific country isn't a requirement for a genre, last time I checked. There are plenty of japanese and even some american produced eurobeat tracks.
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Post by Jay » 07 Feb 2008, 15:47

Cosmic_Bard wrote:Also, being made in a specific country isn't a requirement for a genre, last time I checked. There are plenty of japanese and even some american produced eurobeat tracks.
It's worth mentioning that American-made eurobeat is produced as a hobby, and usually quite mediocre due to the cheap equipment they use. I'm only mentioning this so that wolftickets1969 doesn't get the wrong impression that US eurobeat is prominent.

Also, you can't really blame him for not knowing about Japanese eurobeat. EB-Prime's eurobeat history page doesn't even touch on it, and a bunch of other pages about eurobeat claim that it's all made in Italy too. He was most likely as misinformed as I was back in the day.

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Post by wolftickets1969 » 07 Feb 2008, 16:26

Yeah, I forgot about Digibeat, the Canadian eurobeat label(producer of Jennifer)

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Post by #Infinity » 07 Feb 2008, 18:24

I'm baffled by the fact that the only eurobeat actually made in Japan is generally just comprised of remixes or covers of Italian-produced songs. The fact that the music is almost entirely produced in Europe yet only marketted to a Japanese audience is really cheesy.

On a second thought, Digibeat is from Canada? :eek:

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Post by Cosmic_Bard » 07 Feb 2008, 18:43

#Infinity wrote:I'm baffled by the fact that the only eurobeat actually made in Japan is generally just comprised of remixes or covers of Italian-produced songs. The fact that the music is almost entirely produced in Europe yet only marketted to a Japanese audience is really cheesy.

On a second thought, Digibeat is from Canada? :eek:
There are a lot of italian-produced eurobeat songs that are covers and remixes of japanese stuff too, what's your point? (Snowgame Fighter, Blood on Fire, Try Me, etc)
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Post by para_rigby » 07 Feb 2008, 19:08

wolftickets1969 wrote:Yeah, I forgot about Digibeat, the Canadian eurobeat label(producer of Jennifer)
Can you find a source to match that? I'm not saying you're lying, but I haven't heard this before :grin:

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Post by #Infinity » 07 Feb 2008, 20:10

Cosmic_Bard wrote:
#Infinity wrote:I'm baffled by the fact that the only eurobeat actually made in Japan is generally just comprised of remixes or covers of Italian-produced songs. The fact that the music is almost entirely produced in Europe yet only marketted to a Japanese audience is really cheesy.

On a second thought, Digibeat is from Canada? :eek:
There are a lot of italian-produced eurobeat songs that are covers and remixes of japanese stuff too, what's your point? (Snowgame Fighter, Blood on Fire, Try Me, etc)
Uh, the point is that Japan hardly ever produces original eurobeat. The fact that Japanese songs are translated into Italian eurobeat covers is irrelevant because the remakes are not released in Italy and merely prove how targetted the eurobeat industry is to Japan and nowhere else.

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Post by Cosmic_Bard » 07 Feb 2008, 22:21

#Infinity wrote:
Cosmic_Bard wrote:
#Infinity wrote:I'm baffled by the fact that the only eurobeat actually made in Japan is generally just comprised of remixes or covers of Italian-produced songs. The fact that the music is almost entirely produced in Europe yet only marketted to a Japanese audience is really cheesy.

On a second thought, Digibeat is from Canada? :eek:
There are a lot of italian-produced eurobeat songs that are covers and remixes of japanese stuff too, what's your point? (Snowgame Fighter, Blood on Fire, Try Me, etc)
Uh, the point is that Japan hardly ever produces original eurobeat. The fact that Japanese songs are translated into Italian eurobeat covers is irrelevant because the remakes are not released in Italy and merely prove how targetted the eurobeat industry is to Japan and nowhere else.
I don't think that really needs proving. :P
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Post by Densetsu13 » 08 Feb 2008, 04:30

While I won't argue that the amount of original Japanese eurobeat does not compare to Italian made eurobeat, labels like Plum have especially been making an effort over the last couple of years and deserve their credit :wink:

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