SEB soon to be on iTunes? Anyone else heard of this rumour?

#Infinity · Post by **#Infinity** » 01 May 2008, 14:21

I'm fine with 128 quality - honestly I don't hear that much of a difference, and if it's higher quality, that also means it's larger and thus leaves me with less room for songs on my iPod. Really I don't care about it so long as the mp3 isn't muffled.

Nine · Post by **Nine** » 01 May 2008, 16:14

I'm willing to buy from itunes japan. you can buy japanese itunes gift cards from various websites. :3 It'll definitely be easier and more convenient than mu-mo for sure.

the_ditz · Post by **the_ditz** » 01 May 2008, 16:28

#Infinity wrote:I'm fine with 128 quality - honestly I don't hear that much of a difference, and if it's higher quality, that also means it's larger and thus leaves me with less room for songs on my iPod. Really I don't care about it so long as the mp3 isn't muffled.

That was the point I was making - I've downloaded 320kbps mp3s in the past that were quieter and more muffled than 128kbps files I'm had on my computer for years. I wasn't saying that I don't care about quality, but I've never ever had an issue with iTunes and I don't believe such a massive "company" would ever put up muffled, inferior sounding files.

#Infinity · Post by **#Infinity** » 01 May 2008, 17:29

I was addressing Jay's point actually. My 320kbps mp3 of You Are My Paradise is clearer and louder than my 128's, but it's not a big deal to me - I'm quite used to 128kbps and I don't want to waste more space on my iPod by choosing 320kbps instead.

I'm supporting you in a sense since I really don't care so long as the music is spread because 128 vs 320 really isn't a big deal to me at all.

Ricfiam · Post by **Ricfiam** » 01 May 2008, 18:52

No comment for this conversation. That's why music dies, nobody care about quality, most important is "hey I want 500 songs on my ipod".

#Infinity · Post by **#Infinity** » 01 May 2008, 20:25

Why does that offend you? I personally just don't think quality is anything that should be regarded unless the mp3 is badly muffled, since the pros and cons between 128 versus 320 pretty much cancel each other out for me.

DJ Mike TJG · Post by **DJ Mike TJG** » 01 May 2008, 20:52

Actually one of my biggest issues with low bitrate MP3s/WMAs/etc. is the lack of freedom to re-encode it how you wish. With WAV you can encode to whatever format you want/need - so AAC for iPods, or WMA or MP3 or whatever.

You can't really re-encode low bitrate music very easily, as the quality slides downhill really fast with the second generation onwards. But that's only a problem if your player isn't compatible for the format you've bought in.

Which, annoyingly, given Mu-Mo's obsession with WMA, is precisely the problem - I have to use MP3 or AAC on my iPod, meaning really low quality by the time it's reencoded!

zoupzuop2 · Post by **zoupzuop2** » 02 May 2008, 04:48

Who cares about quality in this sense? SUPER EUROBEAT. AVAILABLE ON iTUNES. FOR LARGE GROUPS OF PEOPLE. TO BUY.

EXPOSURE. AVAILABILITY. POTENTIAL FOR OTHER MARKETS/COUNTRIES.

Though it's sad to see Eurobeat have to tread down the path of track-by-track sales, the fact that it's adapting to the new environment (and thusly still surviving) is good, it can at least remain afloat for the rest of the year.

drnrg · Post by **drnrg** » 02 May 2008, 06:13

I just raise the volume. That's the only diiference for me. I was raised on vinyl

Nine · Post by **Nine** » 02 May 2008, 06:20

I want thousands of eurobeat tracks on my ipod!

I don't really care about quality when im listening to random eurobeat songs while I'm on the bus or walking around downtown.

Ricfiam · Post by **Ricfiam** » 02 May 2008, 07:58

Nine, and what Domino says to your opinion? You love her but you kill her music.
Ok, just to see:
People phisicly can hear between 20 Hz-20KHz, but can feel down to 8Hz, up to 100 KHz. If yu compress the music, you cut frequency what your ear cannot hear or feel, and cut frequency mostly from the high sounds.

128 kbit mp3:
you can see it ends at ~16 Khz

320kbit mp3:
it cutted above 20 KHz

the "mighty" itunes file:
a 192 kbit mp3 better than this. Still cannot understand why people love itunes shit...

The wav, uncompressed format:
it goes up to.. who knows. Depends on studios.

I understand you want many songs to your mighty ipod, but I say the best place for listening to music is at home. I can compress my music when I go out, but if I'm at home, I want to get what the producers wanted to give me. I'll never understand why people like to listen music on computer or ipod whatever. But true, it's your choice. Remember when they stop producing music...
I stay at my side here:

this is my room, not to shown as a tough guy, just to show where you can enjoy music.

You all can stay at 3Mb songs if you like. People are so modest...

#Infinity · Post by **#Infinity** » 02 May 2008, 08:17

Holy whatsit, it's not that big of a deal. If I can hear the song clearly enough, nothing else matters. You're not gonna force everyone into buying only 320 kbps, nor are you going to force people into listening to music exaclty as you do.

DJ Mike TJG · Post by **DJ Mike TJG** » 02 May 2008, 08:41

Doing a frequency-based analysis is flawed - yes it shows how high before the frequency cuts out, but what it doesn't show (and quite crucially, I might add) is how accurately the lower frequencies are being rendered. I mean, I could knock together a codec that produced nothing but white noise crap, but as long as it covered all the frequency range, it'd look as good in that above analysis as the WAV file, right?

Ricfiam · Post by **Ricfiam** » 02 May 2008, 08:42

Infinity, have you ever tried as I do? I don't want anything, don't want to force anyone, I just showed you something, You can try or you can don't give a shit.

Lebon14 · Post by **Lebon14** » 02 May 2008, 11:10

Ricfiam wrote:*lots of text and images about compression and lossless*

Agreed with you. Now that my MP3 can take FLAC, I'm putting my fav. song on it without losing quality. If I use MP3, I love using MP3 320. At worst, it's 192. MP3 128... I don't like it at all. I will always try to find something better.

Btw, Adobe Audition v3 FTW, Ricfam! Wait... it lags too much on my side with a Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz ><EDIT>_<

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