SEB soon to be on iTunes? Anyone else heard of this rumour?

#Infinity · Post by **#Infinity** » 02 May 2008, 15:18

Ricfiam wrote:Infinity, have you ever tried as I do? I don't want anything, don't want to force anyone, I just showed you something, You can try or you can don't give a shit.

I just think it's cool if quality isn't the top priority of a eurobeat listener, and it seems like you're forcefully trying to draw Phil into this issue that seems to have caused nothing but drama.

zoupzuop2 · Post by **zoupzuop2** » 02 May 2008, 19:10

Aaaaaaand END drama here. If you guys want to talk sh** about mp4 quality or whatever, start a new freaking thread.

Can't we just rejoice that Eurobeat is now more easily accessible to more listeners? Quality aside, extended or no aside... The fact of the matter is, Super Eurobeat is now on iTunes. Though it's sad to see the industry have to resort to this, it's nice to see that Super Eurobeat is willing to adapt to the new world of music, and will most likely be rewarded with a slightly extended lifespan for it. The possibility opens, now, for Avex to do something RIGHT, nay, EXCELLENT with Eurobeat releases on iTunes OUTSIDE of Japan, granted that they've started with their "selected" audience.

We're presented with something that can be rejoiced over, and yet we bicker about a detail. We need to step away from the magnifying glass and look at the bigger picture again, because we've clearly lost sight of the good things going on. Granted, it's done with a sad realization (industry-wise, album-wise), but we can still find things to be happy about in this new turn of events.

Nine · Post by **Nine** » 03 May 2008, 01:48

Ricfiam wrote:Nine, and what Domino says to your opinion? You love her but you kill her music.

I love her but I kill her music? Are you kidding me? Honestly? Do you honestly think I'm killing her music? Is shelling out the money for both the extendeds from mu-mo and the physical album itself for the main reason of supporting gogosmusic killing her music? Is giving rave reviews to all the music GOGOS put out there killing her music? There's so much I could say to this right now but I think I'll shut up before I say something I'll regret.

Though, I will say the following now that I'm pretty much dragged into this and now feel obliged to say.

I totally agree with zoup... at this point and think this whole argument about quality is a load of bullshit. We all know whenever a *insert digital music download site here* topic pops up everyone goes all mental over the quality of music they offer. We all know everyone's opinions, we all know how passionate everyone is about their high quality hear every single god damn thing clear as a bell obsession. This is getting old.

Want to cry over quality? Dedicate a single thread for that! Stop hijacking threads!!

drnrg · Post by **drnrg** » 03 May 2008, 06:59

I totally. How can you say we are killing the music by not being picky about sound quality? That makes no sense what so ever.

Just the fact that we are still purchasing the cds and Juno downloads and MuMo ect...makes us great contributors to the genre. I don't think it matters to the poroducers what quality we hear the music as long as we support it.

Once again ..just raise the volume

Ricfiam · Post by **Ricfiam** » 03 May 2008, 07:21

Ok, relax. As long as you buy originals, that's a good thing. Apologize.
I will keep telling shit to people who says "only compressed itunes shit perfectly enough for me". I don't know it's just piss me off.
We have admins, so can stop me if needed.

the_ditz · Post by **the_ditz** » 03 May 2008, 09:03

It's fine for you to want everything as high quality as possible. But it's important to realise that not everyone has the money (compare the cost of 192kbps mp3 to wav on Juno) or the need to do the same. So long as we are all supporting the genre like drnrg says, that's the main thing.

Nine · Post by **Nine** » 03 May 2008, 09:43

Ricfiam wrote:Ok, relax. As long as you buy originals, that's a good thing. Apologize.
I will keep telling shit to people who says "only compressed itunes shit perfectly enough for me". I don't know it's just piss me off.
We have admins, so can stop me if needed.

Thanks for the apology. Your comments just rubbed me the wrong way because I've spent thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of my time supporting Eurobeat over the past 5-6 years. Plus, I wasn't already in the best of moods when I discovered it.

If you and anyone else wants to continue this discussion then please just make a dedicated thread for it.

zoupzuop2 · Post by **zoupzuop2** » 03 May 2008, 15:13

Here's something to "re-rail" us (because "Un-Derail" would be too weird):

How do you think Avex will go about with the releases? Will it be like Mu-Mo, where they release the recents "on schedule", then fill in the blanks of the past as time goes on? Or just a straightforward 186-on, "this is Current Eurobeat" sort of scenario?
How about second disks: IF they release those through iTunes, would they be "Album Only" buys? Seperate albums? That is, would they include them at all, and how?
Extendeds or SEB Cuts-- oh. Right. 13 tracks an' that sh**.
Music videos! iTunes allows the purchase of Music Videos! Who here WOULDN'T pee their pants to see the Not For Sale music video up? (Didn't ABeatC put one out that wasn't Nuage?)

Just some food for thought. ;3

Shawaazu · Post by **Shawaazu** » 03 May 2008, 15:57

SEB 186 was released as extended in itunes

Jion · Post by **Jion** » 03 May 2008, 22:30

Aight guys again everyone needs to keep their comments to themselves... its obvious that this is going on way too frequently for anyone's comfort... I left Eurobeat Evolution to come to Eurobeat Prime and as one of the first members and moderator of the forums... Its bad that I stay away from the site as much as possible... Its making the topic of eurobeat really hard to enjoy... I almost never come here anymore and its quite disappointing really... I think this topic went to a wrong direction so I'm locking it. Next.

Last.fm · Post by **Bore** » 04 May 2008, 02:31

Well, from my point of view the way this topic developed isn't necessarily that horrible as many people make it seem. There have always been contradictional opinions about basically everything. Musicformat quality being one of them. Naturally criticism can be presented in a non-hurtful way, but none the less criticism _should_ be allowed to go out.

I don't really know whether stating that you hardly read the forums and then locking a thread simply because of some negative comments is the best way to handle things either. It's not an all out war, but seeing people already have seen the opinions of either side and even made humane truce (so to speak), locking a perfectly viable topic (which can have new posts from releases and such, if people see it fit) is a no go.

Besides, if you don't read the forums, why do you care? It's more so getting under my skin if you state it over and over again, then lock down topics with some flaming. I don't really mind if there's boycotting going or such, but the statement, followed by locking don't seem logical.
Internet forums are often about flaming, and totally opposite opinions are presented in hostile and not so hostile ways everywhere. If people get hurt by what a single person at the other end of the world writes to the forum, you gotta go look in the mirror and count to 10. Maybe I'm just thickskinned by now, but seriously having some stronger arguments and declarations in a "fight" is not that horrible. Getting upset over various things, maybe a forum post, happens to most of us on occasion. How it gets to you in the long run is what counts. Getting over it in a few minutes vs. brooding over it for a week, well you decide what's the "normal".

Jion · Post by **Jion** » 04 May 2008, 06:29

The thing is when I'm getting messages from several people saying they don't like whats going on I feel compelled to do something about it... Yes I know this is the net and we're gonna get a WHOLE variety of characters each ranging from different ends of the spectrum but there has to be some sort of civility going on here. If I have a whole range of people messaging me saying they don't like whats going on, what can I do? And me stating the thing about not coming to the forums isn't a knock on the forums. You know I love this site. I promote it on each one of my sites (my myspace, my facebook, etc) but its disappointing me some of the things that have begun to be the norm. I want there to be some semblance of normalcy again.

lightsol · Post by **lightsol** » 06 May 2008, 23:25

Hmm if I can give my 2 cents... just lighten up and enjoy. Everyone buys music for different reasons... it's not all about file quality, people... you can have "quality" files but really crappy music... or you can have 18 tracks on a CD, or thousands on an iPod.

PLUS it depends on the person's sound system. many people don't even have sound systems good enough to make a difference. I've worked with music my whole life and I can't hear those MP3 kb differences on my earbuds while working out, but I can hear them on a nice fancy stereo system. BUT I can't often listen to loud eurobeat at home - the neighbors will get mad! Plus I'm never home.

So for me - eurobeat is to be heard while working out and driving. I do "care" about music quality, of course! I understand that CD's are of course better quality than downloads. But the benefit is file size and being able to purchase only tracks I like...

Most people cannot hear the difference between an MP3 and a WAV and that is OK - no problem - who cares? It does not kill music. There are always people who do care. That doesn't make them better than anyone else, either. Everyone is different and we all have our reasons for loving eurobeat and how we use it.

omega666 · Post by **omega666** » 07 May 2008, 02:08

lightsol wrote:Most people cannot hear the difference between an MP3 and a WAV and that is OK - no problem - who cares? It does not kill music. There are always people who do care. That doesn't make them better than anyone else, either. Everyone is different and we all have our reasons for loving eurobeat and how we use it.

This is the smartest and truest statement anyone has every said about this topic. Kudos to you lightsol!

DarkSky · Post by **DarkSky** » 07 May 2008, 05:43

And I absolutely agree with you both..

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