Super Eurobeat Vol.208

Shawaazu · Post by **Shawaazu** » 28 Sep 2010, 04:20

Megan188 wrote:Melody <Ballade>'s appropriateness for this album is about as high as an ant cell. It's like Avex just decided to toss any random song from their catalogue, regardless of the genre, and put it on a Super Eurobeat album for probably little more reason than to draw in listeners who don't listen to the genre at all. At least other non-eurobeat songs were done by eurobeat labels, so they were kind of appropriate; this is just completely irrelevant.

If the SEB obi and stickers are any indication, they are using the J-Euro remixes to get people to buy the albums, I don't recall any mention of anything but the J-Euro remixes on the stickers or obi since 201...

Jay · Post by **Jay** » 28 Sep 2010, 15:50

drnrg wrote:Not really too surprised with many of the comments. Like I said, I remeber Love & Sweets getting the shaft from most of you too.

I enjoyed SEB194 yet I still think nearly all of these samples are pretty ick... I wasn't that enthralled by the tracklist when I first saw it but I didn't think it would turn out to be this bad, haha.

Like takarou, it looks like SEB207 will have to keep me occupied for an extra month, pray that SEB209 delivers, and try to forget that SEB208 ever saw the light of day.

para_rigby · Post by **para_rigby** » 28 Sep 2010, 18:16

The 2X0 decade has been really experimental in its sounds and BPMs. (alot of people made the same comment about the 150s, too)...

I do have some constructive criticism about some things. I'm not just ripping for the sake of it.

The male Dima songs are either aishu or the same euro with guitar. Even back in Dave Rodger's golden era, imo, 2000-2002, Dave was able to mix it up a bit (Fevernova, Let's Go to the Show, I Believe In You) as far as the soundworlds go. The male Dima entries need to have some variety in the productions...

I really did like "It's All Up To You", but now there is an outpouring of slow BPM songs picked recently. Not to say HI-NRG is doing anything wrong, but would be nice if 7A were to pick songs that maybe harken back to EBF or the Euromach eras.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » 28 Sep 2010, 18:25

para_rigby wrote:I really did like "It's All Up To You", but now there is an outpouring of slow BPM songs picked recently. Not to say HI-NRG is doing anything wrong, but would be nice if 7A were to pick songs that maybe harken back to EBF or the Euromach eras.

I thought HRG were harking back to the EBF era with these slower releases though?

I enjoy these slower HRG productions, but honestly, did we need two more on this release? What makes it worse is that the Ciao Ciao and Francis Cooper songs are right next to each other on the tracklist. Would've been much better if there were a couple of faster songs in between them to break up the monotony.

But I suppose we're all being a bit too critical at this stage; these are just samples, after all. Still very disappointing though.

the_ditz · Post by **the_ditz** » 28 Sep 2010, 18:44

Jay wrote:I enjoy these slower HRG productions, but honestly, did we need two more on this release? What makes it worse is that the Ciao Ciao and Francis Cooper songs are right next to each other on the tracklist. Would've been much better if there were a couple of faster songs in between them to break up the monotony.

This was exactly my thought. I don't really feel that a lot of thought is put into the order of the tracks on the albums of late. It was the same with the two Hi-NRG Attack tracks side by side on 207 as well - I reckon the impact that each song has on the listener would be greater if they were split up.

And it's not as if all we're getting are slow songs from Hi-NRG Attack or the other labels - they are mixing it up fairly regularly. Both HRG tracks on 207 were fairly fast, and Dima has been releasing some faster, less aishu-inspired tracks recently as well. I feel like people are just generally being way too critical nowadays - I for one can hear a lot of great things in this decade that has taken it beyond my expectations, and I reckon things can only get better in the future...

Air · Post by **Air** » 28 Sep 2010, 20:23

1.TELL ME WHY / RICH HARD
Seriously, this can easily grow to one my favorites in a long time.
I love the airy style and I've been playing this song for quite a while.
The song has NO power at all but it sounds so attractive.
10+/10

2.JUNGLE OF FIRE / LAURA VOX
Typical Hi-nrg attack style, sounds ok to me.
7/10

3.INVISIBLE TOUCH　/ FASTWAY
two words: a hit!
10/10

4.AWAKE / STEPHY
Stephy did a great job on singing this, good entry! I like the disco-ey style alot.
8/10

5.QUEEN OF HEART / CORRADO
This is just awesome, the melody of the chorus is astonishing. Beautiful performed by Corrado with back vocals of Clara Moroni. I love this.
10+/10

6.CRAZY / DAVID DIMA
This song IS crazy, but it sounds good imo!
7/10

7.THE MAGIC OF SUNSHINE / CIAO CIAO
Slow Hi-nrg attack style, great job
9/10

8.PRETTY WOMAN / FRANCIS COOPER
Bad choice to place 2 hrg songs after another. (+same style)
Btw, francis, isn't this a girl name?
6/10

9.NEVER GONNA MAKE / RADIORAMA
SAIFAM's goin' back to its roots, beautiful vocal performance and melody in the 2nd half of the chorus.
9/10

10.MEMORIES OF YOU / ORLANDO
What a boring voice
5/10

11.EYES OF SKY / VIVI
too much cutyness for me
2/10

12.MIND GAME / DREAM FIGHTERS
Pure epicness, i like the style of this dima song! I want more!!
9/10

13.EZ DO DANCE / TRF
Definitely the best J-euro song in a while! The riff makes me jizz my pants
10+/10

14.MELODY / NAGISA
I've had this song for a long time, never really liked it
n/a / 10

para_rigby · Post by **para_rigby** » 28 Sep 2010, 20:53

Jay wrote:
para_rigby wrote:I really did like "It's All Up To You", but now there is an outpouring of slow BPM songs picked recently. Not to say HI-NRG is doing anything wrong, but would be nice if 7A were to pick songs that maybe harken back to EBF or the Euromach eras.
I thought HRG were harking back to the EBF era with these slower releases though?

I enjoy these slower HRG productions, but honestly, did we need two more on this release? What makes it worse is that the Ciao Ciao and Francis Cooper songs are right next to each other on the tracklist. Would've been much better if there were a couple of faster songs in between them to break up the monotony.

But I suppose we're all being a bit too critical at this stage; these are just samples, after all. Still very disappointing though.

I guess my comment was based on this certain sound that I've been hearing recently as I've been listening to their productions on the earlier half of the EBF series. The new slow and the EBF slow aren't matching up to me. Don't get me wrong, I like the new stuff, but I think that 7A saw how well "It's All Up To You" went and decided that the next few SEBs are going to have more of that sound.

drnrg · Post by **drnrg** » 29 Sep 2010, 00:55

Back in the day, AVEX would have easily put the Fastway track as the opener. Shows how different the direction of SEB is in 2010. I love The slow HRG, but I agree that they should have split them up a bit. Same thing with Saifam.
I don't know, but I kinda feel like Dream Fighters should have been the opener and one of the HRG Attack trax could have been used to close the set.

Air

Btw, francis, isn't this a girl name?

It's actually Francisco. Francis as a girl's name isn't too popular. Maybe they changed it for ethnical reasons or maybe they thought Fransico Cooper sounded too weird? Any way, I know more guys named Francis than girls

Megan188 · Post by **Megan188** » 29 Sep 2010, 02:26

drnrg wrote:Air
Btw, francis, isn't this a girl name?
It's actually Francisco. Francis as a girl's name isn't too popular. Maybe they changed it for ethnical reasons or maybe they thought Fransico Cooper sounded too weird? Any way, I know more guys named Francis than girls

Usually, Francis is a boy's name. Frances, however, is a girl's name.

sonique · Post by **sonique** » 29 Sep 2010, 08:36

004 AWAKE STEPHY

008 PRETTY WOMAN FRANCIS COOPER

011 EYES OF SKY VIVI

014 EZ DO DANCE (REMIX) TRF

My favourites are these!

Lebon14 · Post by **Lebon14** » 30 Sep 2010, 01:35

Don't forget than Memories Of You is available on Juno : http://www.junodownload.com/products/me ... 613447-02/

Jay · Post by **Jay** » 30 Sep 2010, 03:24

Lebon14 wrote:Don't forget than Memories Of You is available on Juno : http://www.junodownload.com/products/me ... 1613447-02

'Never Gonna Make' is on Juno too.

MAtRiCks · Post by **MAtRiCks** » 01 Oct 2010, 00:08

Jay wrote:I thought HRG were harking back to the EBF era with these slower releases though?

Oh god no!

Their new, slower style has very little in common with their old italo sound from the EBF era. Back then, the synths and samples used in their productions were very sharp, the bass-lines were infinitely more italo-influenced and groovy than what we've heard in their recent material.

I would die for a comeback to the EBF days of Hi NRG! Bring us all these natural sounding, powerful vocals back! The lyrics made no more sense back in these days then they do now (they were actually even more random back then), but the sonority of the words used and the stunning flow constructions they came up with in their vocal composition was miles over what they do now.

There's someting else I want to see again from them: the funky, rolling italo bass-lines that go ''tududum tududum tududum tududum'' instead of the usual ''wooop wooop wooop wooop'' we get these days. I'm sure some people know what I mean. For a good example of such basslines, listen to Chiller Shock by Claudia V.I.P., from the 1st Eurobeat Flash). The only producer still giving us these kind of bass-lines nowadays is Dima.

There's nothing wrong with trying something new, and that's clearly what they're doing right now, but it is unfortunately not a comeback to the EBF days.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » 01 Oct 2010, 06:12

Well, by "harking back" I meant that HRG are trying to return to that sound you just described with these slower releases. They haven't achieved that just yet, of course. You can't expect HRG to cut the umbilical cord and start producing songs along the same lines as 'Chiller Shock', 'Welcome to the Future', etc. again. This new direction that HRG have taken is undoubtedly a positive development in their history and, who knows, in a couple of years they may have regained their EBF mojo fully.

Like I've always said though, HRG really do need new vocalists, especially if they want to return to their EBF sound.

MAtRiCks · Post by **MAtRiCks** » 01 Oct 2010, 11:52

Jay wrote:Well, by "harking back" I meant that HRG are trying to return to that sound you just described with these slower releases. They haven't achieved that just yet, of course. You can't expect HRG to cut the umbilical cord and start producing songs along the same lines as 'Chiller Shock', 'Welcome to the Future', etc. again. This new direction that HRG have taken is undoubtedly a positive development in their history and, who knows, in a couple of years they may have regained their EBF mojo fully.

Like I've always said though, HRG really do need new vocalists, especially if they want to return to their EBF sound.

But who said they wanted to return to their EBF sound, though? I doubt that it is their intention. Judging by their history, they seem to usually milk out a soundworld to the bone before they move on and try something new, so I wouldn't be surprised if we hear this current style of them for a little while more.

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