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Post by drnrg » 06 Mar 2011, 06:55

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I'll be honest, I have never been one to really obsess over who actually provides the vocals for tracks, so forgive me if those tracks aren't sung by the same guy who does Crazy Diamond, but I just find myself a bit bored by the melody on the whole.
I believe it still Nick Festari. He is just trying out a gentler tone to his otherwise aggressive vocals. Works beautifully for Crazy Diamond, but they feel a little odd on the chous part to Jump On The Sound


On that last note, I thought I would do my review for Super Eurobeat 212

Much better cd, then I originally anticipated. There are some really wonderful productions included on this compilation. As I listen to the cd for the first TIME, I realize that some songs are gonna take a few listens for one to grasp thier vibe. This is what the rest of the world will never be able to experience and that is that Eurobeat takes some growing into, but once you have been absorbed into its world, you will realize how it is 1000x richer in production value than any other genre out there. Also, Enjoy the vinyls to my 3 favourite songs.

1. Yo Shine- I Dream Of You (SCP)
Yo Shine is back with her sophomore effort and I gotta say, that this TIME around I accept her song a lot more than Power Of Love. In retrospect the song can be considered part 2 of Power Of Love. Basically the same synth structures melodies are reprised again. What this song does right, is that it ditches the annoying little childlike shout outs during the chorus that Power Of Love had. Basically it sounds more mature, which is the new sound AVEX has been striving for. The way she sings the chorus sounds very uplifting and she herself sounds as if she has been practicing on her vocal ability. She really belts out those last lines in the chorus and that makes a whole world of difference. In fact, the whole chorus sounds very powerful. I was almost expecting a somewhat faster sounding synth riff to follow. Something along the lines of Send Me An Angel would have been a better riff IMOP. When I listen to this song and Power Of Love back to back, I just can’t help liking this one at a much higher lever. The only explaination I can give is that it ditches the Kika & Fancy shoutouts, but those really tick me off. Bottom line is that this song is good and a great way to open up the cd. Still dislike the artist name Yo Shine, but on the other hand, I gotta thank SCP for kicking up those extendeds up to a more acceptable length.
8+/10

2. Ace- Set Me Free (SCP)
I really dislike that clubby-like intro on the cd version. The Itunes intro sounded more Eurobeat. I still think the song has an overall club-like atmosphere , which I can’t get into. Even the way he delivers the vocals in the verses sound Urban dance –like. This song has been out for about a month and has yet to make a dent on me. I guess the chorus is the only part that sounds uplifting. The riff is also passable in an SCP way. I really can’t point it out, but when I hear songs like Rider In The Sky and T.V. Hero; I can’t help, but to think that Ace was a superb Eurobeat artist for the early decade of the 2000s and should probably stay there unless it’s in duet form with Fastway. Maybe he should come up with a new alias for this Set Me Free style songs, cuz they sound too different from the older ACE classics of yester year for me to fully enjoy and frankly I don’t hear what everyone is creaming about with this song?
6+/10


3. Annalise- Love Toy (AbeatC)
The verdict is in. This is 100% old style ABeatC, and not from the good end either. The first thing I notice is the overly rehashed “airy” intros of those Annalise/Mega NRG Man intros during the 170s. I knew we were in for trouble when I heard that intro; which basically strips about 50% of the song’s power. The melody is there. I‘ll even go as far as to say that it’s a good melody. The problem is that it plays it too safe and in that I mean, it basically goes nowhere. It baffles me as to why AVEX would choose these song to compete with the high quality of a Dima or HRG Attack, which now a days seem to be at the frontline when it comes to creatvility. A die-hard AbeatC fan might enjoy this song , but to me it sounds like filler material. I’m guessing Pasquinni had nothing from his Sun Fire label to submit this month.
6/10


4. Mr. Moog- Bang Bang Cowboy (Dima Music)

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OOOWEEEE!!! We are up the Eurobeat smack of the month. If playing it safe is what AVEX wanted to do on this cd, then there is no safer play than Claudio Magnani delivering a 90’s style surefire anathematic Eurobeat hit. The only difference is that this song injects so many different style and instruments that it sounds 100% fresh. I never got a chance to listen to the original, but I’m guessing many of those new sound worlds include the Old Western Saloon piano. Anyway, this song has everything I have been craving from a Eurobeat song since the absence of Eurogrooves. The anticipation of this song was at an all TIME high as I requested it every chance I got and It delivers on every level. It’s like Dima took a slice of HRG Attack’s Tam Arrow and TIME records’s mid 90s style and added a dash of DELTA’s Mad Max and created the perfect vehicle to showcase Magani’s vocals. I even got a slight flashback from DELTA’s song of the same name “Cowboy”. This is what I conceder super song writing ability. I would love to know the process in creating the song or if Claudio had any part in its composure? Anyway, I quick rundown of standout points would include that saloon piano effect in the second couplet, the groovy guitar licks in the intro and that ecstatic continuous synth playing in the background, especially when the bass is dropped in the intro and break. This is definitely turning out to be one hell of a Eurobeat year and we are only into the second cd. I already have my second contender for Eurobeat song of the year. Can’t thank Dima music records enough for this song and I would love more done in this 90’s retro style. Hi Ho Silver!!
10+++/10


5. Virgenelle- Baby, Come Back To Me (GGMs)
I just go ahead and say that I love the melody used in the chorus. It reminds me how much I loved the chorus in Wanna Be Over The Moon. This could be the first Virgenelle song that I actually enjoy since she made her departure from AbeatC. It’s not just the chorus, but the overall production even sounds more powerful than most GGMs girly songs. The “airy-like” synths are ever present, but it sounds like they are overlapped with a rougher set on synths to give it the illusion of a more aggressive feel. Maybe they just turned up the bass? I don’t know, but the soundworlds sound more powerful to me and I like that. I also like the riff. It’s more relaxed in the way that it’s played and doesn’t loose its melodic structure. Her vocals are decent. I’m not the biggest Virgenelle fan, but they seem to be decent enough for a Eurobeat song of this style. What I do like is a good Outro and this cd has a lot of those. This Virgenelle song features a really cool one by adding in a few more notes after the initial last booming finish. Nice touch.
8/10


6. DJ Space C’- Danger Zone (Saifam)
So next we have Saifam’s monthly submission. Another cover song. This time of a song that I really didn’t care for its first TIME around. What I said in my SEB 211 review for Speedogang’s- Jailhouse Rock; applies for this song as well. Great intro! I didn’t even hear any similarities to the original. I also think Farina(?) dreamt up a rather fitting synth riff for the song. Anyway, what I’m really starting to enjoy from these “Speed” style songs from Saifam is the real aggressive vibe I receive from the bass line and percussion. This song even adds in some Ken Martin style guitars to further the fun. The same “pet peeve” is present. And that is; that I particularly don’t care for the vocalists that are now present at Saifam studio. He kinda tries for that raspy Kenny Loggins sound, but his vocals have no business in Eurobeat songs anyway, so what’s the point? My question is? Why isn’t Farina doing vocals for these songs? Just the pure fact that he takes up the mic, is enough to shake up the song just enough to be Eurobeat wise accepted. That’s how I would play this hand if I was at Saifam, but anyway; as the song is now, it’s not that bad at all.
7+/10


7. David & Toy- You & I (Dima music)
First off it should have been Dee Dee and Toy as the artist name. David should be left for more Aggressive sounding material. This intro immediately shot me back to Hey Hey Baby Cry from the now defunct Vibration records. Beautiful song for any Eurobeat TIMEline. When I heard that intro I knew I was in for a pleasant ride. For me an intro pretty much is the sneak preview of the rest of the song. I usually know weather I will like it or not. Our new addition to Dima music label; Toy, sounds great. I kinda get the feel that her artist name of Toy was very fitting. Before this review is through, I will rack my brain to death trying to figure which other Eurobeat song follows that same melody line that is used in the chorus. I absolutely, conceder the riff melody perfect for an upbeat song like this one. I wanna say “Wonderlover”, but I know there I are others rolling around in my brain, but for now Wonderlover comes closest. As I hear the song, I get the feeling that David & Toy have a very strong relationship. They are both in perfect synch and deliver the lyrics with a lot of passion. Reminded me, of the old Dave and Domino duets from ABeatC. We also get the everpreasent Hi-hat effect used throughout the song, but for me it feels like it provides the perfect backround to unite their vocals. This is really another Wonderful song. Just listen to all the instruments and it wouldn’t be Dima production without the classic trademark guitar mini break. A very classy song, from start to finish.
10/10


8. Joe D. Toaster- Crazy Diamond (HRG Attack)

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Let me say that is perfect Italo disco Radio pop. I do have a few suggestions. First off it seems that Festari is now doing 99% of the vocals at HRG Attack. I can almost hear a completely different vocal style delivery on the two songs on this cd. Almost as if he is a different vocalist. I remember many vocalists doing this in the 90s. Pasquinni, Farina, even Caria. I really do love Festari’s vocals ,because he can sing in so many tones. I think on this song, he really hit the bulls eye with his gentle tone. As this song is a gentle Italo disco style number which flows by with it’s retro mesmerizing soundworlds. His vocals are really in synch with the the Brian Ice tones used in thosedays. The wonderful continuous synth in the background immediately takes me back to the early 80s when New Wave and Italo was beginning to fuse into what the U.S.; at that TIME, considered the perfect radio pop sound and The Echo-ish percussion makes this song the perfect 80’s Italo flashback. Now, as far as vocals delivery; I honestly think the song would also have worked marvelously with the tones used in Rainy Days. Those little aggressive pronunciations he uses are really the Festari trademark and I; for one, hope we get them back real soon. Another thing that really confused me is the artist name Joe D. Toaster for this title. It’s actually pretty cool to see Joe make such an easy transition from say, “Feel The Power Inside” to this song, but maybe HRG can also introduce a few new aliases and keep the aggressive names like Joe D. Toaster and Banana separate. Imagine how mind blowing would it have been for Mad Cow to sing this song?LOL! Anyway, Another Italo bomba from what is at the moment my favourite Eurobeat label. Who knows, maybe the D. in Joe’s name stands for Diamond. BTW, please bring back the 5:30 + song lengths. Please!! So make a song even more epic.
10/10


9. Mellisa White- Movin’ & Lovin (SCP)
How many here are familiar with the teen pop sensation of Belanova sweeping up the Mexican pop charts these last few years? That‘s the vibe I get form this song’s intro. It’s very radio friendly and wouldn’t sound out of place next to Belanova. What bugs me is that on this particular number by Mellisa White sounds just like any other x female vocalist at SCP. The song could easily have carried the artist name Momo or Stella for example. I remember when Mellisa’s songs stood out. She had her own style. I remember Wanna Be With You had a cool groovy vibe and of course; Everlasting Fire had that borderline aggressive feel. Now it’s One heart, One Soul part 2. I actually liked that Momo song a lot, but I don’t I will be warming up to a song that sounds so identical to that one this soon. The one part that stands out is the Intro and break for its Belanova vibe, but not much else. Even the riff sounds kinda rehashed. Good song length though.
7-/10


10. Megan- TIME to Say Goodbye (Sinclaire Style)
For once the song title seems like a good idea, since none of her songs have seemed to do anything for me yet. I think the song tries too hard to feature one those Aggressive intros that only Bon can pull off. Sinclaire never fails to showcase a great Anthemic Eurobeat song like Wheel Power & Go on one cd and then almost immediately fall back onto this style that seems are just produced for the sake of speed. Not even the erratic synths that sound very much like Kiss My Boo Boo seem to save this tune from ultimately ending up in the ever growing pile of forgettable Bratt Sinclaire Eurobeat material. What this label needs is a really great female vocalist to give his female sung songs the boost they need. For now this song goes by from begging to end with nothing to offer me but an erratic fast riff and I need crave much more that.
6/10

11. Cy- Ro- Jump On The Sound (HRG Attack)
Oh my what has happened here? This is a perfect example of how even a super bias fan like me can cringe when I hear something that I think doesn’t work. I can’t explain it, but I feel this song was composed of two different style songs. Kinda like a fusing of an Italo with Aggressive style song. For me it misses the mark big TIME. I remember how off putting It’s All Up To initially sounded when I first heard it, but by the end of the year, it became one of my favorite songs, so this one might grow on me as well, but for now , I’m not 100% sold. First off; let me give credit where credit is due. Awesome intro! I was expecting something along the lines get The dark Side Of My Brain. Pretty much the riff is perfect for HRG Attack DOA style and Festari starts off great as he aggressively delivers the verses. The melodyies even reminded me of Batman Is Bruce Wayne, but then he gradaously starts to bring down the tone in the bridge and by the TIME the Chorus comes along; the song has somewhat taken a different direction. The melody it’s self is wonderful, but not in a song that gets me hyped for an aggressive style tune and he even sounds even odder when he delivers the lyrics in the chorus. I’ll go as far as to say that the label might have been trying to sneak in another Italo style melody in a fast song. I don’t know? I believe the song has promise to grow on me if I listen to it as if I’m getting the best of both HRG Attack worlds, but I feel like I suddenly have to put the breaks on when the chorus comes along and that really throws me out of my zone. Maybe Festari was trying to show us that it was indeed him singing Crazy Diamond. LOL! What is cool, is that if Vinyl made it’s comeback, this song would be the perfect one to make the transition form Italo style to aggressive style. Maybe I’m being too hard, but it’s gonna take some repeat action on my player for me to fully grab the vibe this song is delivering. Who knows by the end of the month, It could easily become my favourite of the bunch? I wonder if anyone else is getting this vibe? I would definitely be interested on Ditz or Jay’s take on this song? Anyway, the artits name Cy-Ro is officailly becoming the risque taker of the label.LOL!
8/10


12. Go Go Girls- Sex Skiller (GGMs)
I can almost envision the anticipation from Go Go Girl fans when they see this song on the track list? The song actually hits the high mark whan I listen to it. At a Go Go Girls level; it really brings back memories of those older ABeatC classics, so those who are fans, are probably gonna be creaming their britches. LOL! The GGMs team pulls no stops as they give this song the total Go Go Girls work down. At a Eurobeat level; it’s better than their previous song, which has already slipped my mind. Let’s start of with the intro. Pretty awesome! Reminds me a bit Shotgun Killer by TIME’s Pride & Love. I love the way it repeats “drive” right before they sing “just tonight I will drive you mad”. Yeah, that’s just like Shotgun Killer. The riff is very according to a Go Go Girls song and again it sounds like they overlapped the airy synths with a more powerful sounding keybord. The melody in the verses is Aggressive style , but the stand out is the offbeat melody in the bridge. I don’t know; it has that vibe that some Manuel songs use. Kind of haunting/eerie. Anyway, the GoGo Girls actually started that style way before Manuel, so it’s sort of their trade mark sound. I think it’s Lollita who hits some very high notes only heard by dogs. SomeTIMEs they turn me off, but this TIME, they are only backup and only up until the closing of the song, so it’s not too bad. She sounds cool when she screams at the end of the bridge. The overall feel of the song I get is that its trying to inject a “Slasher” theme, especially with the deep Killer voice. The soundworlds in that bridge really fit that “killer” theme and any aggressive Eurobeat lover should feel right at home when listening to this song. that outro really hits the Eurobeat spot. Trust me you will find yourself singing along when you least expect it.
9-/10


13. Claire M.- M.U.S.I.C (Dima music)
I have to admit that when I first saw the artist name, I actually thought Clara Moroni was defecting to Dima’s stable? It’s actually exhilarating when I see a new artist debuting on a cd. It really gives me confidence in the genre and that others also feel the same way. Funny enough, this song kinda has a DELTA feel it. Like those older Leslie Parrish songs, but that’s not why I like it. What really grabs my attention is that intro. It sounds really calm, but perfect for the song. It’s very short, but effective and once you hear its accompanying violins in it’s verse form, you will be swept away in its melody. I only hear a couple Violine- like notes in there and they sound great in the backround. This is also another uplifting song with a positive Eurobeat message. Combing the themes of both Music and Romance has proved a winning formula TIME and TIME again in Eurobeat songs and this song is no exception. The difference is; that instead of having a really romantic feel, It relies more on the upbeat melody of the soundworlds. A really nice debut for another new Eurobeat artist.
9-/10

14. Digital Planet- A New Day (ABeatC)

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another older AbeatC song is what we get to round things off. I do not collect nonstops, so I never heard this song, Honestly many were playing it down as just another filler, but I gotta say, this is a really wonderful song. The message is 100% positive and I honestly can’t remember when I enjoyed a Digital Planet song this much? I can only remember liking West End Guy and somehow always thought it was some weird answer to Pet Shop Boys’ West End Girls; when in reality the two have 0% in common. This song has a sort of music box effect that immediately pulls me under. I get the feeling that I’m opening up my eyes from some mystical transe as I see the skies were suddenly opening up to reveal a whole new promise land. As the synths start playing I feel the force of purple and orange beams pulling me up through the clouds. By the TIME the melodies and verse begin ,I’m flying throughout the promise land witnessing and taking note of all the marvels a new world has. New species of animals, plants, mesmerizing colours dancing before my eyes. In the end it turns out to be a dream, but it remains so vividly engraved in my mind, that I begin to tell the rest of the world what I had witnessed. I tell everyone we must all gather up and meet at a precise TIME and place for a revelation that will change our lives forever. Finally the break comes along. This is the moment everyone has been waiting for as the new world is revealed for the rest of the population. Billions of heads look up to the heavens in awe of what our world could be like once everyone pulls together and starts taking care of the planet. This is were the theme of a New Day kicks in. How can one not love this song?
10/10

15. King & Queen- Ya Ya Ya (Slow Mix) (ABeatC)
Seems ABeatC got a rally royal treatment on this cd? Could it have been on account of Dave’s B-Day. Impossible right? Anyway, I don’t really see the point of this song. In retrospect it’s only a preview of a song barely clocking in the 2 minuits and a half TIME mark. All that said, As much as I didn’t care for the song it’s firt TIME out; I have to say that it didn’t sound half bad at the end of this cd. Especially following the Digital Planet song. You can really appreciate the beautiful vocals of the group King & Queen. The rest of the music is as far as Eurobeat as you can get, but the melody is ever present and sounds really soothing. It’s funny, but if you add some bas line and guitars you could have a Rick Astly melody there. LOL!
6/10(it’s just too short to fully enjoy)

Well, this cd; like many in the past, has managed to surprise me 100%. Which is exactly what I felt would happen once I compared the full versions to the preview clips. For me it took a few listens to get a real vibe for some of the songs featured. While some are instants classics like Bang Bang Cowboy; others like “Jump On The Sound” might take some getting used to. It seems I have plenty of TIME for that, since next month we get a nonstop. I still feel selection of songs was for a safe play, but the quality for those songs is very exceptional, so in the end it worked out for everyone. Still pissed at them for dissing DELTA.
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Post by WNight » 06 Mar 2011, 07:15

the_ditz wrote:For real? Are you telling me that the melody of Crazy Diamond is superior to both Rainy Days and Cherry Lips?? I'll be honest, I have never been one to really obsess over who actually provides the vocals for tracks, so forgive me if those tracks aren't sung by the same guy who does Crazy Diamond, but I just find myself a bit bored by the melody on the whole. It doesn't really go very far, and some of the production decisions on the song leave quite a bit to be desired as well (the way the intro seems to blend aimlessly into the main synth hook and the over-emphasis of the crazy bassline to name just two things). For me, this is the most unrefined of Hi-NRG Attack's recent slower tracks, and for that reason it just can't hold a candle to any of them.
The over-emphasis of the crazy bassline is really what made this song stand out so much, and prevents the song from being a bore like Rainy Days or It's All Up To You, personal opinion of course. As for Cherry Lips, that song (along with Pretty Woman) deserves to be shot and warrants no amount of discussion at all.

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Post by claire marcelle m.flores » 06 Mar 2011, 13:20

thanks to those who like the song....MUSIC!THANKS TO DIMA RECORDING....

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Post by WNight » 06 Mar 2011, 14:27

claire marcelle m.flores wrote:thanks to those who like the song....MUSIC!THANKS TO DIMA RECORDING....
Wow, Claire M herself! Great song you have there, gonna look forward to more presentations from you. :wink:

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Post by the_ditz » 06 Mar 2011, 19:29

Nice review drnrg - although I seem to have a very different impression of this album for the most part! I'll be putting a review together soon, but I just wanted to suggest something to all those people who are complaining about the lengths of certain tracks (particularly Set Me Free)...

Why not make your own extended version? You can get the SEB Version, the SCP Eurobeat Version on iTunes (which has a different intro) and also the instrumental from iTunes. I'm pretty sure that you would be able to easily cobble together a 5 minute + version of the song from all those sources.

And great to see another vocalist on the site - welcome to the Eurobeat world Claire M., it definitely sounds like you're going to be at home here :grin:

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Post by Justican » 07 Mar 2011, 00:54

If you guys enjoy reading these reviews, then hers another one, enjoy:

http://justicanuk.blogspot.com/2011/03/ ... eview.html

I am quite disspointed in people taking length of songs into there account of rating a song, Ditz said how you do it, if you want to extend it, do it yourself, it isnt too hard with Goldwave. So, In my reviews, no review of track times as I am reviewing the songs themselves, not Avex decisions of how long they make there extended's, it's turning into DDR with its Bemani crossover songs type of conversations.

If I has time, may finish off my Dima 1, 2 , SEB 209, 211 and best of 210 reviews.

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Post by drnrg » 07 Mar 2011, 07:49

the_ditz
Nice review drnrg - although I seem to have a very different impression of this album for the most part! I'll be putting a review together soon, but I just wanted to suggest something to all those people who are complaining about the lengths of certain tracks (particularly Set Me Free)...

Why not make your own extended version? You can get the SEB Version, the SCP Eurobeat Version on iTunes (which has a different intro) and also the instrumental from iTunes. I'm pretty sure that you would be able to easily cobble together a 5 minute + version of the song from all those sources.

And great to see another vocalist on the site - welcome to the Eurobeat world Claire M., it definitely sounds like you're going to be at home here
Thanks Ditz. be looking forweard to your thoughts as well.

BTW, great suggestion on creating our own extendeds. Not too undermine any labes' version, but those 4:00 and less edits leave much to be desired. I wouldn't waste my talents on that ace song, but I have actually been doing this for someTIME now. I can't recall who suggested I try that, but I've been sort of a present day Dr. Frankenstein ever since.:D I use audacity and my vitcims are usually TIMErecs and HRG Attack at thier 4:00(extendeds) phase. I don't mean just cut/paste jobs. I add some outros as well.

I have actually made quite a few I'm very proud of like "State Of The Nation","Russian Gangsters" "Wild Night"and one for "Heartbreaker 2007" that even Sergio Dall Ora approved of.

I'm actually thinking of adding a few bars to Crazy Diamond to kick it up to 6:00+

and I seriously recommend trying out Ditz idea to any member who has secretly wanted to be a part of a Eurobeat studio, but just doesn't have the connections :P


@ Justincan. Good review. It's impossible to ignore the fact that Festari was indeed trying out some new ideas with "Jump On The Sound" The song itself is a good conversion piece Eurobeatwise.

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03. "Love Toy" by Annalise (A-Beat-C)
Finally some unreleased goodness. Very quiet intro. Can difintely throw away somebody. But, fortunately, the riff saves the day. The vocals sounds a bit weird at first. But, it ajusts itself nicely with the music. Overall, very decent older song! The nice and fast beat is defintely what I love the most with this nice bridge and chorus!
I've been meaning to ask you? Just what did you mean by "Can difintely throw away somebody." I've been trying to figure out the context of that sentence for days now.

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Post by DarkSky » 07 Mar 2011, 10:44

drnrg wrote: and I seriously recommend trying out Ditz idea to any member who has secretly wanted to be a part of a Eurobeat studio, but just doesn't have the connections :P
/me doesn't understand hahaha

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Post by Lebon14 » 07 Mar 2011, 20:43

drnrg wrote:lebon14
03. "Love Toy" by Annalise (A-Beat-C)
Finally some unreleased goodness. Very quiet intro. Can difintely throw away somebody. But, fortunately, the riff saves the day. The vocals sounds a bit weird at first. But, it ajusts itself nicely with the music. Overall, very decent older song! The nice and fast beat is defintely what I love the most with this nice bridge and chorus!
I've been meaning to ask you? Just what did you mean by "Can difintely throw away somebody." I've been trying to figure out the context of that sentence for days now.
In the sense that the intro can discourage someone from listening further. And yeah, I did write that up badly...
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Post by Vadim » 08 Mar 2011, 00:50

Top song for SEB 212, as according to my vision is :

Megan/ Time To Say Bye Bye.

Sheer melodic brilliance and especially uplifting chorus.

I read the reviews of some folks who gave it low ratings, and they ain't holdin' water...'cause itz obvious that they didn't get it 'cause it was too unlike the rest of the SEB stuff..Production is in fact awesome, and tune flows seamlessly. I for one like how Bratt handled this mix.

Still, the only criticism that made any sense was about the production of vocals - I do agree that a bit more processing was required to make them stand out a bit more and sound a bit more sweet and exciting. The rest of critical pointz about this song in this thread just blew hot air..

Bratt should be encouraged to produce female led tracks as much as possible because they showcase his own way the best and most, and it's those that set him apart from the rest of the crowd.

TTSBB will instantly get into the head of any true Sinclaire fan.
Those that like more conventional approach to production may still perceive the depth of Sinclaire's concept with repeated listen.
The concept is surely there, and it is great..!

No less than 65% of all eurobeat I listen to is Sinclaire.
Most of his songs I listen to are his female sung prodz..because they
are trully unique and the melodies are absolutely outstanding.

In all honesty, I skipped all his macho tunes since Super Eurobeat by Niko. That tune was great, absolutely...But...as SSF, I got nothing from
the macho tunes that followed...they had nothing that would set them apart from the music that is made by everyone else..they felt like typicall generic old Delta material..

Should he produce macho tunes...?....Yes, he should if this is something that he enjoys himself..I do like his macho vocalists a lot as singers.

But I feel that it's the romantic side of Sinclaire that is the strongest and most melodically and musically esthetic for his work.
Grana and Nathalie are the most outstanding vocalists and he outta keep those honeys busy..!

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Post by drnrg » 08 Mar 2011, 01:36

Vadim
I read the reviews of some folks who gave it low ratings, and they ain't holdin' water...'cause itz obvious that they didn't get it 'cause it was too unlike the rest of the SEB stuff..Production is in fact awesome, and tune flows seamlessly. I for one like how Bratt handled this mix.
I respect what you are saying, but honestly I can't say that I have enjoyed any of Bratt's female songs since he started up his own label. Aside from Kiss My Boo Boo, they all seem too "chirpy" on vocals and synths. I remeber songs like Rocky Dance and Love As a Weapon and I just can't put his newer productions side by side and say they equal that quality.To me, it sounds like he injects more passion onto his "macho" productions. I hear this in Wheelpower & GO! and Toy For Love. Some may say, I'm losing my lustre for the fast Eurobeat style, but that couldn't be farther from the truth. Wheelpower & Go, Bang Bang Cowboy, Sex Skiller and the latest Super Duper cds are exactly what I crave in the form of speed. Time To Say Goodbye seems to be 95% speed and only about 5% essence. The riff seems very uninspiring.

Mostly we have the same taste in Music style, but I think Sinclaire style is where we go seperate paths. I think every song on this cd has a die hard follower, so I admire reading about your passion for the song and why you enjoyed it so much.

I could go on and say the same thing about the negative ratings I've been reading Bang Bang Cowboy, but I'm I'm enjoying that song too much to let it burst my bubble :P

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Post by Vadim » 08 Mar 2011, 01:58

they all seem too "chirpy" on vocals and synths. I remeber songs like Rocky Dance and Love As a Weapon and I just can't put his newer productions side by side and say they equal that quality.
I myself preffer his sounds of those songs to those he is using now...I like sounds that are prettier and more natural sounding..and he had more of those in his classic period...this point I do agree with...
Less of techno, more of classic eurobeat...
To me, it sounds like he injects more passion onto his "macho" productions. I hear this in Wheelpower & GO! and Toy For Love.
Passion, machismo, agresiveness are often in higher degree in any male led tracks...After decade of SEB diet I am no longer swayed by those and I require more substance in music than bare machismo and passion.
I feel that melodic and esthetic merit needs to take a priority.

Bratt's macho tunes were agressive but had generic melody lines.
Too bland and uninspired musically....
I am a sucker for beutifull and esthetic melodism.

Mostly we have the same taste in Music style, but I think Sinclaire style is where we go seperate paths. I think every song on this cd has a die hard follower, so I admire reading about your passion for the song and why you enjoyed it so much.
I enjoy directness and honesty, so I know that criticism will come along with that..I myself give criticisms freely and expect nothing less of any listener on this forum. It's just...it should be more on target and to the point than mere likes and deslikes.

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Post by DarkSky » 08 Mar 2011, 10:29

Eurobeat would be nothing without any versatility, if all labels would sound the same the genre would become boring as hell.. (except for Dr.NRG who probably doesn't mind to have a full disc of TIME tracks only). I don't see what's wrong with Sinclaire's Style ;) Just be happy that there are still producers who have their own style 8)

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Post by para_rigby » 08 Mar 2011, 15:08

My one and only complaint with Sinclaire's new production is that the vocals get drowned out by the music. You know how long it took me to figure out what was being sung in "Toy For Love" and "Kiss My Boo Boo"? FOREVER. It wasn't ever a real problem when he worked at Delta.

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Post by DarkSky » 08 Mar 2011, 15:45

para_rigby wrote:My one and only complaint with Sinclaire's new production is that the vocals get drowned out by the music. You know how long it took me to figure out what was being sung in "Toy For Love" and "Kiss My Boo Boo"? FOREVER. It wasn't ever a real problem when he worked at Delta.
It could be the acoustics of the room they're working in, if you've seen the 1.2.3.4 Fire video you can see they actually record the voice in the room with the mixer. This COULD be the problem you are hearing. The room might not be very suitable for recording sessions. I don't know much about the SinclaireStyle studio so I can't really tell this for sure.

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