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Post by Darkholme » 06 Apr 2013, 07:45

drnrg wrote:Sean Banana, Swedish House Wives? Are these for real:?
Sean Banan is pretty much a joke in terms of both music and overall popularity. It all began when someone interviewed him when he was in some TV program about dancing, and he said some pretty silly stuff. Since then he's been riding that wave, parodying himself. I honestly have no idea how he's still around :|

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Post by drnrg » 06 Apr 2013, 10:22

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I honestly have no idea how he's still around
He is still around because people have weird tastes in music. Remeber Joe Dolce(Shadap Yo Face) Rick Dees(Disco Duck)Los Del Rio(Maccarena), Vanilla Ice(Ice Ice baby), Milli Vanilli(WTF) and the two newest travesties PSY and LMFAO. These are all jokes and yet somehow they all had number one hits :?

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Post by the_ditz » 06 Apr 2013, 15:16

Sean Banan and Swedish Housewives were two of the very few highlights in a terrible Melodifestivalen year! Cascada has to win ESC this year!! :D

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Post by drnrg » 06 Apr 2013, 20:55

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Post by drnrg » 06 Apr 2013, 20:56

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Sean Banan and Swedish Housewives were two of the very few highlights in a terrible Melodifestivalen year! Cascada has to win ESC this year!!
She already won Eurovision in Germany with "Glorious". Would she even still qualify?

Anyway,Cascada is HOT! Easy on the eys. Great vocals. She easily overpowers Ke$ha, Rihanna, Bieber and all those robotic sounding Urban hip hop males, like Usher, Chris Brown, ect...(they are the worst choice for a dance song vocals). Why she hasn't made it huge in the states is probobly cause she has too much class and would put to shame all the above mentioned. I don't particularly care for This type of EDM POP(except Serebro or Kelly Clarkson :!: ), but I can listen to Cascada's songs and even better, Watch her videos. I just can't stand that robotic rapping in the break. For me ; that ruins the songs. Thank Goodness "Glorious" didn't have that in it.

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Post by the_ditz » 06 Apr 2013, 21:52

drnrg wrote:ditz
Sean Banan and Swedish Housewives were two of the very few highlights in a terrible Melodifestivalen year! Cascada has to win ESC this year!!
She already won Eurovision in Germany with "Glorious". Would she even still qualify?

Anyway,Cascada is HOT! Easy on the eys. Great vocals. She easily overpowers Ke$ha, Rihanna, Bieber and all those robotic sounding Urban hip hop males, like Usher, Chris Brown, ect...(they are the worst choice for a dance song vocals). Why she hasn't made it huge in the states is probobly cause she has too much class and would put to shame all the above mentioned. I don't particularly care for This type of EDM POP(except Serebro or Kelly Clarkson :!: ), but I can listen to Cascada's songs and even better, Watch her videos. I just can't stand that robotic rapping in the break. For me ; that ruins the songs. Thank Goodness "Glorious" didn't have that in it.
What robotic rapping are you on about? And Germany are always automatically in the Eurovision final as they are one of the "Big 5" countries who invest the most into the EBU (European Broadcasting Union) along with UK, Spain, France & Italy. Even so - she would qualify easily for the final if she did have to compete in the semi-finals.

She has always been a fantastic performer with the image and live vocals to match - the complete package if you like. I know that Eurodance/Hands Up has never really been your bag, but it's good that you can recognise her "talents" (in more ways than one I guess ;))

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Post by drnrg » 07 Apr 2013, 06:51

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What robotic rapping are you on about?
Well,the only one that comes to mind at the moment is Rythm Of The Night. I guess it was a cover and she had to stay tru to it's original form? I might have been thinking about someone else? Anyway,That's the whole point of why I actually like her music. So I'll correct it so to say, Hardly any use of that robotic rapping. :wink:

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Post by the_ditz » 07 Apr 2013, 10:41

drnrg wrote:the_ditz
What robotic rapping are you on about?
Well,the only one that comes to mind at the moment is Rythm Of The Night. I guess it was a cover and she had to stay tru to it's original form? I might have been thinking about someone else? Anyway,That's the whole point of why I actually like her music. So I'll correct it so to say, Hardly any use of that robotic rapping. :wink:
Rhythm Of The Night was Corona, and has been covered by a couple of acts, but not Natalie/Cascada as far as I know. None of Cascada's tracks contain any "robotic rapping" (I'm assuming you're referring to the Real McCoy/La Bouche style 90's rapping? Maybe not, but that's what I'm assuming you're talking about. Cascada is all about showcasing Natalie's amazing vocals, nothing else!

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Post by synthjunkie » 07 Apr 2013, 20:58

the_ditz wrote:
drnrg wrote:the_ditz
What robotic rapping are you on about?
Well,the only one that comes to mind at the moment is Rythm Of The Night. I guess it was a cover and she had to stay tru to it's original form? I might have been thinking about someone else? Anyway,That's the whole point of why I actually like her music. So I'll correct it so to say, Hardly any use of that robotic rapping. :wink:
Rhythm Of The Night was Corona, and has been covered by a couple of acts, but not Natalie/Cascada as far as I know. None of Cascada's tracks contain any "robotic rapping" (I'm assuming you're referring to the Real McCoy/La Bouche style 90's rapping? Maybe not, but that's what I'm assuming you're talking about. Cascada is all about showcasing Natalie's amazing vocals, nothing else!
Ok, Corona's "rhythm of the night" is a million times better than Cascada's. It's a shame she had to change her older eurodance style to fit more the american dance pop style....

So many of these pop songs are complete rip offs, either done with permission or without, of either italo melodies or eurodance songs.
some of the older ones even copy disco songs.

The biggest one I can think of is LMFAO and their song "party rock", the riff on that song sounds like a rip off of italian eurodance group "Cappella" and their song "tell me the way"song here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOGBbWu-gd4


Another biggie is how Annerly Gordon's eurodance project, whigfield, had a song called "Think of you" in the 90's, and was plagarized by UK boy band "One Direction" with their song "stole my heart."
On one brazilian "one direction" fan page, it states that whigfield is seeking damages for plagarism from One Direction.
http://onedirection.com.br/whigfield-es ... or-plagio/
link showing how both songs share the same melody in the lyrics during the chorus can be found here:
https://soundcloud.com/kevin-b-lling/on ... -whigfield

Nicky Minaj's song "pound the alarm" rips off the beginning riff from the piano riff off of belgiam eurodance group Cartouche's song "feel the groove."

Nicky Minaj - pound the alarm (instrumental version): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIussneMT6w
Cartouche - feel the groove:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOGBbWu-gd4

Drake feat. Rihanna - take care copies the piano synth from CeCe Rodgers - Let's join hands
song here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2AqGiX4F1I
Drake feat. Rihanna - take care: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zzP29emgpg

Lady Gaga's Alejandro rips off the beat from Ace of Base's - Don't turn around.

Madonna's song "girl gone wild" riff rips off of the riff from kylie minogue's "love at first sight", which itself is a rip off of the riff of an older song by italo legend "spagna" and her song "love at first sight" (notice the same title name)


spagna - love at first sight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuFA0-OlXhE

katy perry's california girls rips off some melody in the lyrics and song melody from clara moroni's eurodance project "antares" and her song "whenever you want me."

lady gaga's song "fashion" rips off the riff from "robert owens" and his song "i'll be your friend - glamorous mix"
robert owens - i'll be your friend (glamorous mix):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyOpccib2vw

and to top it all off, madonna, whom many consider the queen of pop, is nothing but a rip off queen herself. her most famous song that made her famous "holiday" is a complete rip off of the song released before hers called "happy days" by the disco funk group "north end".
Madonna - Holiday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE4hDrymvYw
North End - happy days (side a): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3avFRtT6SU
North end - tee's happy (side b) (this is the instrumental version of happy days): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRDUu96mzvw

eurodance group double you, who is producted by roberto zanetti, of italo-disco fame under his 80's name "savage" and produced artists such as Corona and ICE MC, had a song called "please don't go" in the 90's, which was copied in both melody and lyrics during the chorus by Tyler Merediros - Please don't go. This song was butchered to death.
Double you - please don't go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIAnkrPgTvY
Tyler Medeiros - Please don't go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp_y8wAczGI

i could go one and one comparing how today's pop music is just a rehash sound world of older tunes, and riffs...just in a much more boring way.

i understand that alot of eurobeat tunes too use samples, especially alot of the sounds from many Stock aiken waterman productions, but eurobeat never claims itself to be original, while these so called pop artists of today at times DO claim their fame for being original, and even have bitch fights about who made what song first (ahem, lady gaga vs. madonna) which is what does piss me off they don't give credit to where the credit comes from, in this case they are neither copying off either of them but another souce (ex. lady gaga's born this way is NOT a copy of madonna's "express yourself", but actually a song that predates madonna's called "libertine" by french diva "mylene farmer.") So in the end, the source copied by these pop artists tends to be from forgotten songs that more than likely, the average american listener would have no idea from where it samples from, plus the source tends to be songs that are way to old for the younger generation to have ever listened in their lifetime, so more chance that they wouldn't be able to pick out the "inspiration." Create controversy, sex, scandals, and use unknown samples which the general public couldn't pick out in order to sound "original" in order to create cheap music, which equals money and fame. That's mainstream music.

Mylene Farmer - Libertine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lqA_tod6qs
compare with: lady gaga - born this way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lqA_tod6qs
WARNING: mylene's video contains frontal nudity! lol
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Post by the_ditz » 07 Apr 2013, 22:23

synthjunkie wrote:Ok, Corona's "rhythm of the night" is a million times better than Cascada's. It's a shame she had to change her older eurodance style to fit more the american dance pop style....
Okay, I've just search on Youtube and found Cascada's "Rhythm Of The Night" - yeah, I can see why you guys (especially drnrg) hate it, since it's them trying to conform to the mainstream norms and the US styles. Pretty banal to say the least, with the only plus point Natalie's vocals.

And sadly Cascada had to move away from the hands up style as it lost mainstream popularity. A track like "Everytime We Touch" would never be a worldwide hit today unless it was produced very differently, and that is such a shame but sadly shows the fickle nature of the mainstream music industry today.

Anyway, to avoid this turning into a Cascada appreciation thread, here's some more Italo Disco I've come across... ;)

Neon Game & Amaya - Crazy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oNORazp9Yo

Chito - Crown & King
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbjuBbFx1Uk

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Post by synthjunkie » 08 Apr 2013, 03:42

the_ditz wrote:
synthjunkie wrote:Ok, Corona's "rhythm of the night" is a million times better than Cascada's. It's a shame she had to change her older eurodance style to fit more the american dance pop style....
Okay, I've just search on Youtube and found Cascada's "Rhythm Of The Night" - yeah, I can see why you guys (especially drnrg) hate it, since it's them trying to conform to the mainstream norms and the US styles. Pretty banal to say the least, with the only plus point Natalie's vocals.

And sadly Cascada had to move away from the hands up style as it lost mainstream popularity. A track like "Everytime We Touch" would never be a worldwide hit today unless it was produced very differently, and that is such a shame but sadly shows the fickle nature of the mainstream music industry today.

Anyway, to avoid this turning into a Cascada appreciation thread, here's some more Italo Disco I've come across... ;)

Neon Game & Amaya - Crazy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oNORazp9Yo

Chito - Crown & King
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbjuBbFx1Uk
Yes, Cascada's songs used to be good many years ago.
Everytime we touch was pretty good, even though it was a cover of the original eurodance song from the 90's, by the group fourteen14, whose main singer was big time Italian singer Alessia, produced by Roberto Zanetti of DWA records italy, who himself helped to create eurodance music, and used to sing italo-disco in the 80s under the name Savage.

fourteen14 - everytime we touch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvTJlPLqnkc

and to finish it off, some awesome late 80's eurobeat songs from Alexia (Aquilani) under her different aliases, before she started producing eurodance in the 90's:

Two for Love - Hold Me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oje-JF4gRKg

Alexia Cooper - Boy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDgc4FOxxwY

Lita Beck - It's alright
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14CmAy2CG5c

PS: thanks for those italo links!

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Post by UFOPOLI » 08 Apr 2013, 08:32

synthjunkie wrote:Everytime we touch was pretty good, even though it was a cover of the original eurodance song from the 90's, by the group fourteen14
That's one of the most interesting statements I've heard in a while! :D I know some of you guys never listen to anything without a beat but I'm sure you must have heard this at some point...?
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Post by drnrg » 08 Apr 2013, 08:34

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Neon Game & Amaya - Crazy
Awesome find. True to Italo Disco style in percussion, synths and the echoy vocal delivery reminded me of Brian Ice songs. The melody could have been the new Radiorama. The only thing it lacked was the middle break. That probobly would have added the extra minute that its missing.
Even the vinyl sleeve was very 80's.

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Chito - Crown & King
Also good. Weird artist name?This one relies on the synths throught the melody as opposed to a synth riff. remeinded me alot of a wonderful song on High Energy records called Loving You Forever- McBrian. Infact the song could have fit nicely under that record label.The sleeve could have used a bit of more contrast between the title of the song and the image of the crowns. A bit of the purple on the crown stones as an outline for the title would have really stood out. The vocals were ok, but it definately needed some female backup. Once again no break and it had what I concider a "radio version" intro. This was the versions the radio played during 86-88. Both of these tunes deserve a vinyl release.

Both of these songs were a real treat to listen to.

synthjunkie
So many of these pop songs are complete rip offs, either done with permission or without, of either italo melodies or eurodance songs.
some of the older ones even copy disco songs.
Looks like you really did your homework here. I care so little about this type of EDM that I wouldn't take the TIME to decipher who they sampled, unless it's so in the face obvious.

Pitbull feat Christina Aguilera- Live This Moment.

I wonder if Norwegian band; A-Ha gave them the right to sample "Take On Me" :!:

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Post by synthjunkie » 08 Apr 2013, 14:58

UFOPOLI wrote:
synthjunkie wrote:Everytime we touch was pretty good, even though it was a cover of the original eurodance song from the 90's, by the group fourteen14
That's one of the most interesting statements I've heard in a while! :D I know some of you guys never listen to anything without a beat but I'm sure you must have heard this at some point...?
hehehe, that's cool how it's a cover of a cover! so cascada is actually covering a dance version, of fourteen14's dance version made in 1997, who covers maggie's 1992 version.

you can always find the original source if you narrow it down far down enough.

it's always difficult to narrow down the samples and covers, as that is what i like to do in my spare time, as i am building a samples database.

thanks for the awesome find, i'll add it to my samples database.

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Post by synthjunkie » 08 Apr 2013, 15:07

Looks like you really did your homework here. I care so little about this type of EDM that I wouldn't take the TIME to decipher who they sampled, unless it's so in the face obvious.
That's pretty much one of my hobbies, to go through music databases and find samples on who copied who, since most electronic dance music today is sampled from disco, early house, or italo, since those are the 3 main staples from where all EDM stems from. So I go through the likes until I find the sampled melody.

And since I don't care for today's American Pop music at all, it gives me some pleasure to find out when a song is sampled from italo, house/eurodance, or disco song.

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