How are some labels releasing old tracks independently and others aren't

[otter87]

I've always heard the talk on the forum about "avex has the rights" whenever people talk about extended versions of older tracks being released. Just wondering, how is it that Hi-NRG Attack, Saifam, Delta, can release so much of their back catalog and this is a non-issue, yet this excuse is given so often during discussions?

[Lebon14]

For Delta... it's a complicated story that I'm not allowed to tell. But I'll say one thing: the fact that they are on Amazon MP3 is NOT legal and were left there out of spite.

Hi-NRG Attack, they got their own company in which they release their songs under ("Live Music Studio"). So, they got only have themselves to ask. Same for Saifam.

For SinclaireStyle, it's... a bit complicated. Their back catalog that dates before their SEB 186 debut is theirs but also a bit of Delta mixed in. The songs are produced by Sinclaire, Foglia & co. but there are singers that are still active and NOT on Sinclaire. Exemple: Clara Moroni. So, they can't release them because they would basically have to ask Clara. And that would be difficult. But otherwise, for the newer material, they have their own rights. In fact, you can ask them to send them their "Eurobeat Killers" CD-Rs that have older tracks. They just choose to not distribute them, minus a few digital singles on iTunes.

For Time and Eurogrooves, I guess they have their own rights.....? I'm not sure. But the sheer number of people involved: producers, writers, etc. will make it extremely difficult and most of them, if not all, are MIA (missing in action).

For Dima, they just stopped because it was Sjoerd driving everything and Davide is not very interessed in digital (his loss).

For SCP, It's divided in two. Pre-2010, it's Avex. They have their song but they can't distribute them. Period. They pretty much sold their soul to Avex during these years. But in 2010, they re-negotiated and everything done post 2010 is theirs and up to them. In fact, they still release stuff. See EuroKudos 8.

For GGM, I really don't know. One things' sure: 2007-2011 and 2013-present are two different eras with, probably, 2 different publishing restrictions.

For A-Beat-C: it's probably like Time. Very complicated mess with the rights even though they are under Rodgers & Contini Rec.

Hoping I'm right with most of this!

P.S Most people involved in Italy are from the "I believe you should buy the CD/Vinyl." era, they still believe that's where they make most profit.

[SuperEuroJimmy]

I might be wrong, but I don't think the singers are that big of a part of the deals. Most of the time, they aren't much more than just the voice, and it stays with that. In Moroni's case however, she did a lot of producing/writing as well.

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[Lebon14]

For Delta... it's a complicated story that I'm not allowed to tell. But I'll say one thing: the fact that they are on Amazon MP3 is NOT legal and were left there out of spite.

So that's why Newfield & several of his friends won't return to SEB or post on the EBP boards any longer. Very insightful.

The vocalists have nothing to do in the story; it's all on Newfield. I'm shutting up now.

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[sethreed]

For A-Beat-C: it's probably like Time. Very complicated mess with the rights even though they are under Rodgers & Contini Rec.

There is a lot of A-Beat-C stuff on Euroenergy releases, renamed, and some revamped, now under BYM(Blow Your Mind) label. Idk if it is legal though.

[Crockett]

So that's why Newfield & several of his vocalists won't return to SEB or post on the EBP boards any longer. Very insightful.

You very quickly forget what is telling to you more than once, when I share here informations from the first hand in fact. Do you have a reason to not believe L. Gelmetti ? Avoiding forum ? Some theory of conspiracy ?

Is this always all about money ? Let's not convert producer's passion, his own taste and negative feelings towards current Eurobeat released by Avex Trax to desire to earn "fortune" behind the back...

I'm not sure are you guys referring to malicious rumors only, however I can guess with high probability, what sale methods by him do you mean. Amounts you can spend during one day in Italy...

I can say yes, that some sale may be illegal from a standpoint of law, copyrights and contracts.

Whereas should we have pangs of conscience to pay the real composer of music ? Another example just to rethink:

From a simple human's viewpoint, is it totally honest, when owners of former big record companies have earned a lot on every song they even didn't touch just because they were chiefs and so called "producers" like Dave Rodgers, Giacomo Maiolini ?

Eurobeat niche, anyway the same jungle of business.

I'm willing to pay for stuff the person who really made a track, no matter how, whatever is the place and method, if I can't count on any formal sale.

I'm shutting up now too.

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[Crockett]

people just don't understand why he doesn't make music

Quotes below were more expanded answer to very first suggestions why: too high BPM, over and over the same songs.

I don't think he is the one outstanding name who stopped or maximum limited his Eurobeat productions.

Let's not convert producer's passion, his own taste and negative feelings towards current Eurobeat released by Avex Trax to desire to earn "fortune" behind the back...

You remember when I wrote he is willing to create Eurobeat again. But... :

1. SEB is the only CD series.

2. Avex Trax is the only publisher.

3. Akyr also seems to be finished trial of something different, new, independent.

I don't interview everybody about detailed standpoint, however the pressure of trends, stable mark of SEB, not matter with how decreased popularity, is year by year more discouraging for an artist, who already several years ago left the company because of its sound.

[DJ Mike]

Is it really so hard for Avex for just stick out a bunch more iTunes releases of catalog eurobeat tracks they own the rights to? I'd still love to hear numerous Euromach series tracks that have never had an outing in anything other than poor vinyl rips (e.g. Lucya / The Look Of Love).

[#Infinity]

Is it really so hard for Avex for just stick out a bunch more iTunes releases of catalog eurobeat tracks they own the rights to? I'd still love to hear numerous Euromach series tracks that have never had an outing in anything other than poor vinyl rips (e.g. Lucya / The Look Of Love).

Yep, apparently it is too hard for them to do, hence why they instead opt to continue having CD's manufactured of a series they're beating with a dead horse, all while strangling the surviving labels to follow their stagnant direction.