unknown vocal behind many songs- who knows?

Karel · Post by **Karel** » 20 Apr 2007, 17:52

@jeurobeat
Are you angry?
I only asked why he knows that JAMES COLLER Pascuni singing?
I think there are feelings and opinions but not sure information.

Ronald · Post by **Ronald** » 20 Apr 2007, 19:12

Just for record, it's not LILAC-DANCER but T-BOY with the song DANCER.
And believe me Karel it's Giancarlo who's doing the vocal here. My quess, it was recorded in a basement located in the centre of Mantova. Created together with Sandro Oliva under two very nice nickname's: Felix the Fox & Frank Lee.

Mazzel!

Ronald

cheeseman · Post by **cheeseman** » 20 Apr 2007, 22:34

OK, I've listened to all 3 songs, and I definitely hear Mauro Farina in the first one, as well as Giancarlo Pasquini in the second and third one. There is a clear difference between the two voices.

I know you're not satisfied with just "feelings and opinions", but look at the credits: James Cooler/T.Boy songs are co-written by Pasquini, Lilac/Boys Boys Boys/etc. are co-written by Farina. Also, Riki Visconti tracks are co-written by Nando Bonini. This only confirms what we all hear!

On a side note, "Cinderella" shocked me a bit, to be honest.
I had no idea there existed another version of this song than the one by Gino Caria!

drnrg · Post by **drnrg** » 20 Apr 2007, 22:58

Karel wrote:

""""Hey Man" by Mike Hammer(Giancarlo Pasquini) Listen to the part after chorus and the break. He is hitting that high note wich is unmistakenably the range he uses on his James Cooler songs."""

Hi, i listed today to the part after chorus, yes, this is the voice used in James Coller songs, BUT
Why do you think for sure that the person who sing in the chorus also Giancarlo is and not anybody else????

There are a few people who work on a song, in the choris can be for example 2-3 other people, one of them ca be the person who sing JAMES COLLER songs.
What do you think?

Boy, you're a tough cookie to crack

You can always apply the mythology of Eurobeat into into this quetion. Have patients, because I'm gonna try to explain to you best I can and also give you a link so you can see writing credits for your self too. I'm a guy who pays attention to Catalougue numbers too and many TIMES as in FLEA, ASIA , and FCF you can notice the Farina era. Meaning he was premier writer and vocalists at that label. He did vocals for Thomas & Schubert, Coo Coo ,Lillac etc.. bascially he and G. Caria did all male vocals up untill FL8455 Venice- Love Games. This was Giancarlo Pasquinni era. Pretty much all writing credits contained his name and no more M. Farina, Therefore Pasquinni takes over Thomas & Schubert, King Kong ,Blu Sunbeam and introduces names like Michael Dream, Mr. Beat ,and Bella & Blue. ...AND T. Boy. Fabrizzo , and Gianni took over Valentino and Coo Coo respectfully and Lillac was now female vocals. comparing T.Boy to say TRD1142 Dave Hammond- Take Me Higher(also known as Pasquinni's era at TIME) It's simple to compare and relate him being the vocalist. Now finally listen to James Cooler- Love To Lover, T. Boy- Dancer and Dave Hammond- Take me Higher back to back. Giancarlo Pasquinni on all three. Ready now wasn't that fun and instructable? Here is the link to many labels and Catalougue numbers. Try it with Mauro Farina.

I hope this helps a little more on your understanding of vocalists. Oh I forgot to mention that this method works a lot better if you actually are familiar with the songs

http://eurosati.k-server.org/public_htm ... leeve.html

jeurobeat wrote.

And Bonini does not sing James Cooler, because that's Giancarlo Pasquini

...not only that , but he also has never worked at ABEATC.

Cheeseman wrote

You might also want to check this out:
Sandy Bee - Ready For My Loving
At 4:25, you can hear Nando Bonini singing in falsetto

Here he is at Stil Novo

http://www.2shared.com/file/1853578/fcc ... _Blue.html

Karel · Post by **Karel** » 21 Apr 2007, 22:34

and whos vocal is RELEASE "Take my way" and "I can fly tonight" on HiNrg Records produced by J.Ferrarin?
It seems to be the same voice too.

drnrg · Post by **drnrg** » 22 Apr 2007, 06:48

Karel

and whos vocal is RELEASE "Take my way" and "I can fly tonight" on HiNrg Records produced by J.Ferrarin?
It seems to be the same voice too.

Shame on you! You forgot Eddy Skyn- It's A Lie(same voice). My guess it's probobly one of the three: (J.Ferrarin-M.Scainetti-Leonie Gane) All three are involved in the project. My guess is that it's Julio himself

here is link to Eddy Skyn. In case you never heard it before(great song)

HE 106_Eddy Skynn- It's A Lie
http://www.2shared.com/file/1856489/3a4 ... n__89.html

and if you still doubt Mauro's Falsetto, check out this old TIME hit from Alesis. Mauro is clearly using his Falsetto while accompaning his female companion in the chorus. Sound familiiar in the way he sings "Steppin Up"? remember FLEA's "Step By Step? Also co-written by M. Farina

TRD 1032 Alesis- Steppin' Up(M.Farina-G.Crivellente-S.Oliva)
http://www.2shared.com/file/1856532/4fa ... ck_18.html

Karel · Post by **Karel** » 22 Apr 2007, 08:36

I dont forget EDDY SKYN, i have this song.
But why do you say that the voice same is.
In RELEASE high falsetto voice sing, like in projects i mentioned before.
And EDDY SKYNN has normal male voice.

-In your sooner message you spoke about Farina-Time and Pascuini-Time on the FLEA Label. But in both times there were different vocalists, not only Farina and Pascuini. For example F.Rizzolo et al.

-You mean that the people who produce or co-produce, are also vocalists. Is it right? There are some projects on FLEA (i took it from your label list), where only Farina and CRivellente produced and composed, but a woman singed. It doesnT mean that this woman Farina is.

I will write more about my small reseaches today in the evening.

cheeseman · Post by **cheeseman** » 22 Apr 2007, 10:01

Looking at the credits, it seems there were 4 major separate "teams" at FLEA.

- Factory: Farina/Crivellente/Newfield (with Farina on most male vocals),
- White Wing: Pasquini/Oliva/Raimondi/Domino (Pasquini doing most male vocals),
- Studiottanta: Rizzolo/Diaferia/Visentin (Rizzolo on male vocals),
- Havana: Dall'Ora/Benati/Castagna (none of them singing - Caria, Magnani and Coraini did male vocals).

Except for Domino, female vocalists simply weren't involved in production or songwriting, so they aren't credited.
The same applies to some male vocalists, e.g. Gianni Coraini.

drnrg · Post by **drnrg** » 22 Apr 2007, 11:22

Karel wrote:

I dont forget EDDY SKYN, i have this song.
But why do you say that the voice same is.
In RELEASE high falsetto voice sing, like in projects i mentioned before.
And EDDY SKYNN has normal male voice.

I wanted you to hear that it's the same male singer just using his voice in higher tempo.

karel wrote

-You mean that the people who produce or co-produce, are also vocalists. Is it right?

Since the beginning of TIME, M.Farina has been producing and singing. Up untill current Eurobeat Producers are usually singers too.

90's- 200s TIME = Clara Moroni, DiMarcantonio and G. Caria also co-wrote and sang.
90's -2000s HRG Attack= F. Rimonti, R. Gabrielli ,. Festari. Write and sing
2000 DELTA= C. Moroni ,Ravenant. Write and sing
90's-2000s ABEATC= G. Pasquini, Raimondi etc..Write and sing.
90's-2000 Vibration= G. Caria and DiMarcantonio. Co-write and sing.
There are so many more to mention, but this shows you that Producers also sing. I would too if I owned a record label

Karel · Post by **Karel** » 22 Apr 2007, 18:52

I would sing too if i owned a record label, and i let my friends sing too (unfortunatelly nobody of us has the voice of LILAC and nobody can sing falcetto)

Is this very big talent to be able to sing falcetto?

drnrg · Post by **drnrg** » 23 Apr 2007, 04:08

It's a big talent to able to sing at all. Like I said ,anyone can sing Falsetto. Just sing in a very high voice. Try it.

oresama-chan · Post by **oresama-chan** » 25 Apr 2007, 15:13

Karel wrote: And you said you tried it at home and it can be done. Would it be possible to hear your high singing voice in MP3 format? Could you mail me maybe 1-minute-long song of you in two different versions? It would be the big help...

Ok, I recorded my singing in falsetto.

http://media.switchpod.com/users/oresam ... lsetto.mp3
This is me singing Riki Visconti - You Make Me Feel So Blue in falsetto.

http://media.switchpod.com/users/oresam ... _Relax.mp3
This is me singing Relax in normal voice.

Enjoy !

P.S.

drnrg wrote: 2000 DELTA= C. Moroni ,Ravenant. Write and sing

Hey dr, this is not true ! lol
Ravenant has never sung, but Davide Budriesi was a singer-song writer.
Now he doesn't write for Delta, though.

drnrg · Post by **drnrg** » 26 Apr 2007, 01:05

ha Ha! How do you like that. I made A Boo Boo

Karel · Post by **Karel** » 26 Apr 2007, 09:20

Hi again,
i was two days not at home and i will be back today evening, so i will hear these samples.

Two days ago i met a friend of me , he is music teacher in the school. I ask him to sing falcetto, it was very funny. When he was singin, he had very different voice. But this is very difficult to sing the whole song with the same falcetto voice. Maybe Giancarlo Pasquini can it better.

MarkIventi · Post by **MarkIventi** » 26 Apr 2007, 10:32

I once heard from a reliable source that the high voice is in most cases NOT Farina or Pasquini. Of course there are exceptions, but there is in fact a singer that has done 90% of these productions if I'm not mistaking. If I remember correctly his normal voice is in the two Eugene tracks but I could be totally remembering this wrong.

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